Incall vs Outcall vs OTC (Stings ,Safety and Logistics) Feedback please

[darkstarrynight]

Hey all, I'm bored and was looking up stings in the Houston area online. I got to thinking, what are the pros and cons of incalls vs outcalls vs OTC when it comes to safety (both you and the provider from pimps or crime) and to help prevents stings? I'm just shooting the wind here and would like to see what everyone thinks.What's your preferred protocol? Agree or disagree with any of the below?

First off, a few guidelines:
1. Obviously, its best for members to only use providers that are verified, P411, references, reviews etc.) but let's say this is a new provider and you can't verify and want to TOFTT. Like say a new post in the new members forum.
2. Obviously, with any provider, do your homework (tineye, alerts, reviews, reverse phone number lookup). You should do this regardless of eccie, p411, bp, etc)
3. Not including spas in this discussion
4. Let's assume you will always need a place to go to for incall, outcall, or OTC. Obviously, not always the case: provider can have own private incall, you can host for outcall, etc. But let's assume worst case scenario and you always need to find a spot (don't include car dates).
5. Not including Agencies

INCALLS
PROS OF INCALLS
PRICE (cheaper): When comparing prices on eccie, BP, p411 it looks like that ladies that can provide their own incall (whether at a hotel or a private residence) are usually cheaper than ladies that advertise outcall (like adding more in for distance and then paying for a room)
CONVENIENT: You can usually figure out where the provider is geographically so you don't have to drive too far. You can pick your choice of location/provider. Since they are in one place its also easier to set up an earlier time to meet. If the provider isn't busy, its up to you to get there when you say you will. Alerts inform you to tell you what part of town to avoid and when.
CONS OF INCALLS
NEVER THAT SAFE: IMHO, its so easy to set a sting here. If the provider is new or there isn't any other info from other users, its a total shot in the dark if its a sting. You show up, agree on a price and leave in handcuffs.If its not a sting, but a scam, its also so easy to have someone other than the provider in the next room or floor that can come on over and join the party at your expense.
TIME: You don't know what to expect when you first walk into the room. Could easily be a B&S from an ad. You are the one driving to that location so its your time (and gas, but right now gas is cheaper) that is being wasted on a B&S or if the provider agrees but then doesn't want to see you when they look through the peephole.

OUTCALLS:
PROS OF OUTCALLS
-A BIT SAFER: If you can pick a hotel of your choosing that a provider can meet you up at, there is less of a chance of it being a sting (but still possible). LE can't spend that many resources meeting people up for stings, they would rather stay at a given hotel or notel and go fishing to wait it out. This is my assumption, no real facts here though. You can also meet with the provider face to face for a few minutes before you decide to go further and get the room. Which can eliminate B&S and also if you arrive earlier, can see if the provider arrives with anyone else that you weren't expecting.Has anyone heard of a sting where the ad was outcall? Houston and other large cities are a big place.
-STILL SOMEWHAT CONVENIENT: If you and the provider can agree on the location, then you probably want to still pick somewhere that's relatively close by. I would note here that a provider that says she is outcall but has a fixed outcall location and doesn't want to meet you is really an incall.
CONS OF OUTCALLS
-HIGHER PRICE: See above, usually outcall costs more and negotiating on price can be somewhat tricky. Is it negotiated amount + room amount + outcall fee? or is some mix of them? Either way, its usually a higher price
-TIME: Since both people are meeting at a location, it means that a little bit more time must be given in order to set a date. So you have to schedule in advance. If you suddenly have some free time on your hands and need to arrange last minute, it would have probably been easier to arrange an incall provider.

OTC
PROS OF OTC:
-YOU GET TO GO TO A STRIPCLUB AND DRINK BEER: Nuff' said. Even if you didn't do anything else. Alcohol is for sale. Sometimes food.
-YOU GET TO SEE SOMEONE IN PERSON (and in their underwear, maybe less): Much better than a pic with a weird angle.
-SAFETY: (not including ITC play, just OTC). Has anyone ever met a stripper that was an undercover cop and was trying to set you up inside or outside the club? Even if its the first night of a new dancer, there is more safety in approaching her for OTC play than responding to an incall or even outcall.
-POTENTIAL FOR REGULARS: Assuming the dance doesn't also advertise on any provider site, if you setup a successful date, you have much better chances of setting up more dates. May not be the case if they advertise AND dance.
CONS OF OTC:
-TIME: Requires and investment of time to get to know the dancers and staff. Depending on what time you go (night or day, weekday or weekend) you may not get any attention at all or its so crowded and the dancers so busy that its just not feasible that night.
-REQUIRES SOCIAL SKILLS: I could see it being hard to communicate that you want to set up OTC play if you're shy or don't have a good grasp on the language (english/spanish/etc)
-COST CAN VARY: Here's where I find something interesting, I've done OTC a few times and I will admit my bias for it here. Some cost a little more than incall (because you will need a room) or some can just be incredibly high priced (see Chica's) but on the whole for me, the prices can be competitive with both incall and outcall on any provider site.You are also paying more upfront for dances, however, I don't see that as a bad thing. A few dances and few drinks lead up to conversation for OTC.
-REPUTATION: Obviously, word can get around that you are looking for OTC and can cause some dancers to avoid you if they are not into that. A bad rep from you will easily spread (and it should if you're an ass to someone).
-BAD LUCK, BAD NIGHTS: Sometimes you can go through dry spells where no one wants to OTC and you spend a lot of cash on lap dances and booze with no good leads. No action.

What do you guys think?

[Guest021817-2]

TLDR; yep you ain't getting laid.

[darkstarrynight]

Yeah, beats jail and a mugshot though, right?

[josmith12328]

I don't have time to read that long drawn out post. Which may me wonder if you have too much time on your hands.

[cr76]

Originally Posted by darkstarrynight

Yeah, beats jail and a mugshot though, right?

Do you research and you'll be fine .


But honestly, from this post - this may not be the hobby for you.

[NMEufdaST8]

Dear OP,

What are you trying to get at with this post? Through your lengthy quasi-SWOT analysis, you have reached the uncontroversial conclusion that there is no risk-free investment of hobby time and money. And so...?

You admit to being biased in favor of OTC stripper play. Are you looking for validation? Trying to convince others? Trying to convince yourself?

Consider the relative volume of activity in the different review forums. While we each have our own preferences, the relative activity level answers your question "What do you guys think?"

Hunting strippers for OTC play can be perfectly fun and rewarding. If you like it, by all means keep at it. If you are not sure, do some homework and consider your options. But if you're looking for THE right answer, forget it.

[Sistine Chapel]

Hey OP just internalize your own feedback and you should be fine.

[Alyssa XOXO]

Holy crap. OP, I just have one question. Are you RW Handsome/Sexy/Fine, etc? Serious question.

[Guest092816]

Now that's lot of information

[Drealman832]

That's a lot.

I usually outcall just because I'm too lazy to go out to see a provider; and, I just don't trust hotels (although I'll go to a private incall though).

Outcall also kinda limits my choices just because there are some providers I can't try because they don't outcall (AKA almost every Asian provider).

[Drealman832]

But yeah, do your research.

On an unrelated note, I always hate reading long ads in the Provider/Weekend sections. They almost always end in the emphatic NBA/NO AA policy (see my sig). I wish providers would put that shit at the TOP of the ad so I don't waste my time.

[RALPHEY BOY]

Originally Posted by darkstarrynight

Yeah, beats jail and a mugshot though, right?

I have been doing this 20 years and visited about 150 Providers...just keep your mouth shut on the first visit. do not mention how much for you to suck my dick?..her rates are posted.

She knows why you are there, once you reach the comfort level then ask away....

[RALPHEY BOY]

Originally Posted by Alyssa XOXO

Holy crap. OP, I just have one question. Are you RW Handsome/Sexy/Fine, etc? Serious question.

I am!.. if you are taking a poll? I am 48, 6' tall, 190 pounds of muscle and only 10%body fat, size 32 inch waste, about a 4pack abs.. and a big dick. (-:

[SashaSedusax]

Outcalls and Incalls are the same when dealing with Leo's. Neither one is safer, stick to Eccie and research. It's not hard to tell a bad situation from a good one if you pay attention and research.

[Alyssa XOXO]

Originally Posted by RALPHEY BOY

I am!.. if you are taking a poll? I am 48, 6' tall, 190 pounds of muscle and only 10%body fat, size 32 inch waste, about a 4pack abs.. and a big dick. (-:

My panties just dropped... Oh wait, I don't wear any... long as you're not perfect, HMU; I would love to get aquainted with your dick... I mean YOU...