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		|  12-16-2010, 08:12 PM | #1 |  
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                User ID: 60154 Join Date: Dec 16, 2010 Location: austin 
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				 The "hobbiest" in texas need to get a grip and realize something 
 
			
			So I have been i texas for a couple of months. While I have been here there is one big issue I have noticed and it is that when ever a provider doesn't provide something you want or aquire you tear her to shered's or try to in most of the girl's case's! What I don't get is that they are different providers that provide different service's some do more than others and some stay on the safe side. Either way it goes THE PROVIDER has every right to choose what she may and may not provide, she also has every right to charge according to how she feels AFTER ALL IT IS "HER" BODY. To you it may be sex but many providers they look at it as it being their body. 
 What also bother's me is not many of you have good hygene but demand that a girl gets lovey dovey with you, but you have to understand it is hard todo when you have to hold your breath from fear of throwing up. Most of you don't even know how to wash your balls and smell like shit so who in the world would want to give you a bbbj? think about it for a second, you talk shit about a provider that smells funny down there, so how do you think we feel?One way to fix it is simply jump in the shower before you come.
 
 Please get off your high horse and understand a provider HAS EVERY RIGHT TO CHOOSE WHAT THEY MAY AND MAY NOT PROVIDE IT'S HER BODY.
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		|  12-16-2010, 08:16 PM | #2 |  
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			Please get off your high horse and understand a hobbyist HAS EVERY RIGHT TO BITCH ABOUT SHITTY SERVICE. IT'S HIS MONEY.
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		|  12-16-2010, 08:22 PM | #3 |  
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                User ID: 60154 Join Date: Dec 16, 2010 Location: austin 
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			it wasn't about that PLEASE OPEN YOUR EYES AND READ WHAT WAS WRITTEN
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		|  12-16-2010, 08:23 PM | #4 |  
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			i guess this guy will pay for a meal and not send it back if it had a roach in it... or not say anything if the waiter made him wait forever. dude seriously... what the fuck! there is a girl down here who will puke on you giving you either a bbbj or cbj i'll pay for it, you come and get it and post what a wonderful time you had. 
 additionally, how do you know guys balls stink??? do you come across this when you provide?
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		|  12-16-2010, 08:26 PM | #5 |  
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			guy? me thinks its a provider?   it kinda sounds familair
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		|  12-16-2010, 08:32 PM | #6 |  
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			Its a given that with all the guys here in SA that hobby, there will be a few that don't know good hygiene.  What gets my goat is that some of these same providers that complain about a client's hygiene will take the client's money anyway and provide shitty service and blame it on the client's personal hygiene.  
 If a "stinky" client comes a knocking at your door and doesn't ask to freshen up...send him the frack home.
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		|  12-16-2010, 08:45 PM | #7 |  
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			I agree if a person has bad hygiene you know it walking through the door...it is pollite at that time to say no...we don't know if a provider is stinky until we are there...by then a little late unless I can drop to my knees when I first walk in the door like a dog and get to know you that way?
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		|  12-16-2010, 08:51 PM | #8 |  
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			Here we go... 
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					Originally Posted by speaking4providers   To you it may be sex but many providers they look at it as it being their body.  |  
The provider is here for one reason and one reason only (The coin) and The Hobbyist is here for one reason. Lets not make this more than what it actually is
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		|  12-16-2010, 08:59 PM | #9 |  
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                User ID: 2751 Join Date: Dec 17, 2009 Location: San Antonio 
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			Just said it in the Main Discussion http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=144093    guess I have to say it here too: 
  
I'll speak for myself, thank you. No need to do it for me. Too many generalizations and mud slinging here. Only a very SMALL percentage of hobbyists fit the bill you so eloquently described. I love my Texas Gents!
  
I will add: 
  
Girly- I really think you need a course or two in customer service. You are rocking the boat and you are already coasting on something similar to the Titanic. You make the board look and feel cheap. And if you are gonna be so rude to just everyone-well  at least do it with some form of proper grammar and spelling. 
 
KKA
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		|  12-16-2010, 09:11 PM | #10 |  
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			According to the profile, the author of this thread is a female in  austin, apparently joining today to post this rant. I see 2 points here,  the one about 'services', and second one about hygiene.
 As for the hygiene point, it has been brought up before, and probably  bears an occasional repeat for some guys to get a clue. During an  appointment, a provider certainly has the right to request showering or  other cleanup prior to activities, and can even refuse service if  desired. Furthermore, just as we may discuss smelly kitties, the  providers here have a forum for discussing such things about clients if  they so choose. I wonder how scientific your survey was whereby you  determined that "not many of you have good hygene"...? Thanks, KKA, for your vote in that 'survey'.
 
 As for 'services', yes, every provider has the right to choose what they  may or may not provide. I don't recall a poster saying otherwise. But  hobbyists have the right to see or not see who they want, based on ANY  criteria, including services, and reporting those services is a crucial  part of the information exchange here. We all understand that YMMV  applies, and that hygiene can affect the offering or withholding of  certain services. I think "tearing to shreds" is quite the exaggeration.  If you don't want to do bbbj, then don't. But don't bitch about guys  wanting it, or that guys lament about certain girls not providing it. We  want what we want. But you do not have to provide it. The consequences are understood and accepted on both sides of the aisle.
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		|  12-16-2010, 09:13 PM | #11 |  
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		|  12-16-2010, 09:30 PM | #12 |  
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                User ID: 13184 Join Date: Feb 6, 2010 Location: In LaLaa Land 
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			i could see where shes coming from. its hard to perform a service w/o good hygeine.
 
 for ex: a guy spent 3om sitting in traffic to see me. gets my place ( a heavy fella) sweating A Lot. shirt has several sweat spots (under arms, back, and chest)
 i offer shower 3 (THREE) times & he declined.  he choose not to freshen up, i choose not to perform all gfe activities. but he was giventhe oppurtunity to fix it.
 
 now i dont care what size, height, race, religion etc you are....but there isnt a way to screen if a guy has "stinky balls" lol...they could start sweating/becoming stinky on the way to see me.
 
 i understand where youre coming from!!!
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		|  12-16-2010, 09:37 PM | #13 |  
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	i didnt read all the posts before my i posted mine. 
what would be the polite way turn someone away bc of their hygeine?
ive only had that happen once...
i would imagine id be talked about horribly if i did turn some on away. 
now that i think about it..id be talked about for "limiting" my menu...
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					Originally Posted by yogi692  I agree if a person has bad hygiene you know it walking through the door...it is pollite at that time to say no...we don't know if a provider is stinky until we are there...by then a little late unless I can drop to my knees when I first walk in the door like a dog and get to know you that way? |    |  
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		|  12-16-2010, 09:56 PM | #14 |  
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					Originally Posted by MsPrittiKitti  i could see where shes coming from. its hard to perform a service w/o good hygeine.
 
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		|  12-16-2010, 09:59 PM | #15 |  
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			Thanks KKA!  There's a time and place for everything...and it's just not appropriate to state that the OP is speaking for all providers!  I, for one, do not find her post relevant to most of my clients.  It's just plain rude to group all hobbyists into one category...just as it is to group all ladies as being stupid, overpriced, bad service providers. 
 If we don't like hearing and reading those types of threads...why would we think most of the reputable hobbyists want to read this?
 
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