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09-17-2014, 01:27 PM
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Why So Serious .... All the backlash
In the famous words of the Joker .... Why so Serious? I posted a video maybe two months or so ago about my No AA rule and boy did I get a response. I've finally decided to clarify a few things that, after giving it some thought, were not made clear before. It is explained in my video b/c it would've been too long to type. Janelle R. Dawson
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09-17-2014, 01:37 PM
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Thank God you cleared that up.
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09-17-2014, 01:57 PM
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Really doesn't matter what the video says, no one likes to be judged by negative stereotypes. People appreciate it they are judged as individuals and by the content of their character. I work in IT and I know managers who will not hire women. Of course people have the right to see who they want, but ignorance is ignorance no matter how you cut it.
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09-17-2014, 02:10 PM
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She said that she does see AA clients.
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09-17-2014, 02:21 PM
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Really doesn't matter what the video says, no one likes to be judged by negative stereotypes. People appreciate it they are judged as individuals and by the content of their character. I work in IT and I know managers who will not hire women. Of course people have the right to see who they want, but ignorance is ignorance no matter how you cut it.
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I agree with some of what you said and yes, it can be said that anyone that has any type of policy, here or anywhere else that does not include others because of a stereotype is ignorant. Question is, how do you know the reason they policy put in place is done out of stereotype? Answer: you don't. Any provider can cater to the clients she wishes to cater to base on whatever criteria she wants it to be. Just as a hobbyist can see who he wants to see and pay for a session, instead of just starting at the first listed provider and going down the list to the next one the second time he wants to see another one, ect.
But, even if her reason for AA men is stereotyping, it does not mean that the AA men, who probably do not actually want to see her for a session anyway, send her messages of a derogatory nature is basically stooping down to the level they think she is at, maybe even lower.
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She said that she does see AA clients.
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Yes she does, but only the ones she has seen before she put the NBA policy in place.
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09-17-2014, 03:39 PM
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Yes she does, but only the ones she has seen before she put the NBA policy in place.
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Or if you are on P411 or if you have outstanding references.
I didn't see her first vid but it sounds like she will see AA as long as you arent ghetto and approach her with respect. In all honesty any lady should be approached with respect so its not an AA thing. I guess Janelles' stereotype or policy should be "No disrepectful men" instead of NBA. All races can be hood so pleas don't assume its just a black thing. I've seen white boys/girls act more hood than me.
I guess its better to have an NBA policy against thugs than a NBA policy against all blacks.
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09-17-2014, 03:56 PM
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09-17-2014, 04:25 PM
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I understand the complaint. I don't get it.
I bet a lot of guys on here have a nda (no dudes allowed. Aka won't let a guy or won't bang a guy policy). I know I do.
I have a no tranny policy too.
It doesn't mean I hate any of them or look down on them.
it's similar to girls having a no newbie policy or a no bbfs policy.
Just move on to the one that wants to see whoever one is and don't try to convince anyone of something they don't want to do.
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09-17-2014, 04:31 PM
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Just move on to the one that wants to see whoever one is and don't try to convince anyone of something they don't want to do.
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this sounds suspiciously like George Wallace and Spiro Agnew, when they spoke about jobs hiring and restaurant/hotel accomodations..
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09-17-2014, 04:34 PM
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Or if you are on P411 or if you have outstanding references.
I didn't see her first vid but it sounds like she will see AA as long as you arent ghetto and approach her with respect. In all honesty any lady should be approached with respect so its not an AA thing. I guess Janelles' stereotype or policy should be "No disrepectful men" instead of NBA. All races can be hood so pleas don't assume its just a black thing. I've seen white boys/girls act more hood than me.
I guess its better to have an NBA policy against thugs than a NBA policy against all blacks.
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This was my intended message behind my initial post. Anytime you say I don't see "X", it's basically a generalization of an entire group of people. Just like you said, instead of saying, "No disrespectful men" or "I screen", she states no AA. So if you're black, you could have grow up in a middle class or rich neighborhood, speak the Queen's English, went to college, and worked many years in a good paying job, but because your body produces extra melanin as a response to your ancestors living under a hot African sun, you may compelled to snatch purses and rob escorts. Forget your college degrees, clean record, and stable upbringing. That line of thinking is nonsense, but people like to believe what they believe.
I've traveled all around the world and ignorance exists everywhere. Some individuals of a certain group will fit negative stereotypes to a T, but I believe in giving people their own chance to fuck up. It doesn't mean that I'm never prejudiced (pre-judging) against someone because of their appearance or how they carry themselves, I still give them a chance. Most people are pretty decent if you take the time to speak to them without being rude or condescending. Some are exactly who you thought they were, but that's life.
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09-17-2014, 04:48 PM
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this sounds suspiciously like George Wallace and Spiro Agnew, when they spoke about jobs hiring and restaurant/hotel accomodations.. 
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Would anyone think a gynecologist should be forced to see a male patient? By the logic no policies that discriminate should exist and all money is equal than any doctor should be forced to see any patient.
Just like I don't agree with California saying women's rooms and men's rooms aren't for that specific gender, they should be for anyone that identifies with that gender.
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09-17-2014, 04:54 PM
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Would anyone think a gynecologist should be forced to see a male patient?
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get the Obama Administration on the phone.. they missed one!
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09-17-2014, 04:59 PM
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I'm confused. She's Black... she will see Black clients who meet her criteria... so how does stereotyping (your code language for racism) enter the picture?
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09-17-2014, 05:21 PM
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I'm confused. She's Black... she will see Black clients who meet her criteria... so how does stereotyping (your code language for racism) enter the picture?
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If you didn't understand any of the prior posts, I don't think there is anything that can be said to un-confuse you. I didn't think any of the posts were overly complex. You're the only one who has said anything about racism, and even that's your own assumption about what others are thinking.
Stereotyping and racism isn't necessarily the same thing. If you don't understand that then, oh well.
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09-17-2014, 07:04 PM
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If you didn't understand any of the prior posts, I don't think there is anything that can be said to un-confuse you. I didn't think any of the posts were overly complex. You're the only one who has said anything about racism, and even that's your own assumption about what others are thinking.
Stereotyping and racism isn't necessarily the same thing. If you don't understand that then, oh well.
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yeah... keep fucking that chicken ...
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