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Old 12-16-2019, 11:09 AM   #1
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The House Judiciary Committee's minority blasted the committee's rush to impeach President Trump and wrote that history will not look kindly on how exculpatory evidence was ignored to meet a "self-imposed December deadline," according to the full articles of impeachment report released early Monday.
The minority, which is comprised of Republicans, blasted the Democrat-led majority for not making the case for impeachment and simply employing "holdover" arguments from other investigations to make their case. Despite the divide, Rep. Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y., the chairman of the committee, wrote for the majority that Trump is a threat to the Constitution and should be removed from office.


The committee released a 658-page report on the impeachment resolution that lays out the case against Trump. Democrats have raised two articles of impeachable offenses, including abuse of power by soliciting Ukraine to interfere in the 2020 election and then obstructing Congress during its investigation.

The minority wrote that both articles are supported by assumptions and hearsay. The minority, headed by Rep. Doug Collins, R-Ga., the ranking member of the committee, wrote that the majority decided to “pursue impeachment first and build a case second.”
The majority ignored exculpatory evidence but proclaimed the "facts are uncontested,” the minority wrote.
"The facts are contested, and, in many areas, the majority's claims are directly contradicted by the evidence," the minority wrote. They continued that "not one of the criminal accusations leveled at the president over the past year—including bribery, extortion, collusion/conspiracy with foreign enemies, or obstruction of justice—has found a place in the articles. Some of these arguments are just holdovers from an earlier disingenuous attempt by the majority to weaponized the Russia collusion investigation for political gain."
The majority's actions were "unprecedented, unjustifiable, and will only dilute the significance of the dire recourse that is impeachment," they wrote.
The minority also claimed procedural missteps by the majority by not allowing a "minority day of hearings," despite several requests to Nadler. They called the denial “blatant” and “intentional.” They claim Nadler also refused a request to subpoena witnesses. They wrote that there was a complete absence of “fact witnesses” and the case rested with the testimony from four academics and another with a panel of Congressional staffers.
The majority claimed that they were transparent. The majority wrote that the minority wanted to hear testimony from the whistleblower, but the majority stressed the importance of protecting the person’s identity. The minority's request to hear from Hunter Biden—the son of Joe Biden—was "well outside the scope of the inquiry," the majority wrote.
At the heart of the first charge, is Trump’s July 25 phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. Democrats have relied on a whistleblower’s complaint that claimed that there was at least an implied quid pro quo during the phone conversation. Trump was also accused of using agents "within and outside" the U.S. government to compel Kiev to investigate the Bidens and their business dealings in the country. The claim is that Trump withheld $391 million in essential military funds to pressure Kiev on the investigations.
© FoxNews.com House Intelligence Chair Adam Schiff joins Chris Wallace on 'Fox News Sunday.' Both Trump and Zelensky deny there was ever any implied or explicit quid pro quo.
The newly released report also claims that Trump directed key players in the inquiry from participating.
Trump "interposed the powers of the Presidency against the lawful subpoenas of the House of Representatives, and assumed to himself functions and judgments necessary to the exercise of the ‘‘sole Power of Impeachment’’ vested by the Constitution in the House of Representatives,” the report said.
The report listed John “Mick” Mulvaney, Trump’s acting chief of staff, and Robert B. Blair, a senior adviser to Mulvaney, as officials who have denied subpoenas.
Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., on Sunday proposed in a letter to Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., that Mulvaney be subpoenaed to testify in an impeachment trial. McConnell told Fox News last week that the chances of Trump being removed from office are zero.

Republicans say Democrats are impeaching the president because they can’t beat him in 2020. Democrats warn Americans can’t wait for the next election because they worry what Trump will try next.
The House is expected to vote on the articles next week, in the days before Christmas. That would send the impeachment effort to the Senate for a 2020 trial.
The majority claimed that the impeachment inquiry was performed in a fair manner and pointed out that the purpose of the inquiry was to determine if Trump “may have committed an impeachable offense.” Trump was offered the opportunity to participate, but he declined, the majority wrote. The president has refused to participate in the proceedings.
At about the time the impeachment report was being released, Trump was on Twitter touting his record and slamming the allegations. He wrote that despite the impeachment and "obstruction," he had one of the most successful presidencies in history.


Typical DPST hypocrisy!
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Old 12-16-2019, 11:23 AM   #2
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The minority wrote that both articles are supported by assumptions and hearsay.
because Trump blocked real witnesses from testifying.. why do we keep going in circles?

that's like bitching that the steak I served you was under-cooked, after you turned the oven off when I wasn't looking.

call real witnesses in the Senate, let's be transparent and find out real facts. it will NOT happen, the Republicans will not allow it.
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Old 12-16-2019, 11:34 AM   #3
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because Trump blocked real witnesses from testifying.. why do we keep going in circles?

that's like bitching that the steak I served you was under-cooked, after you turned the oven off when I wasn't looking.

call real witnesses in the Senate, let's be transparent and find out real facts. it will NOT happen, the Republicans will not allow it.
He didn’t block witnesses, he invoked Executive Privilege, which ALL Presidents have used. He made congress go to court to uphold their demands. You see Chungster, the Judiciary’ is also a co equal branch of government. They settle cases between congress and the executive branch. The SCOTUS will hear Trumps case to block his tax returns. The Court will decide. See how this is supposed to work Chungy? The House should tear up the Obsrtuction of Congress article. They didn’t want to let the court decide. They had to impeach immediately before their support completely tanked.
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OK, bamsy, so he invoked executives privilege, in orders to OBSTRUCT the inquiries.

A rose by any other names will still prick you, eh?
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Old 12-16-2019, 11:58 AM   #5
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OK, bamsy, so he invoked executives privilege, in orders to OBSTRUCT the inquiries.

A rose by any other names will still prick you, eh?
I know... the Trump Cock-suckers spin every which way. Executive Privilege was bullshit to delay, and thus destroy the attempt to get evidence. he knows he is guilty, it seems to me.
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Old 12-16-2019, 09:28 PM   #6
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Yawn,
Unless the Dims provide actual direct witness testimony, the Senate will deal with the whole thing in time for an early lunch.
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OK, bamsy, so he invoked executives privilege, in orders to OBSTRUCT the inquiries.

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I know... the Trump Cock-suckers spin every which way. Executive Privilege was bullshit to delay, and thus destroy the attempt to get evidence. he knows he is guilty, it seems to me.

you know you're replying to Yssup Rider's BAND handle, right? maybe you can hook him up with a street walker. he can finally get his thong fetish off!



BAHHAHHAHAAAAAAAAA
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you know you're replying to Yssup Rider's BAND handle, right? maybe you can hook him up with a street walker. he can finally get his thong fetish off!



BAHHAHHAHAAAAAAAAA
is your memory failing? I don't see Streetwalkers. the Republicans on this Site don't see girls, PERIOD. that amuses me, considering half the Right-Wing here utilizes Gay slurs almost continuously.
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He didn’t block witnesses, he invoked Executive Privilege, which ALL Presidents have used. He made congress go to court to uphold their demands. You see Chungster, the Judiciary’ is also a co equal branch of government. They settle cases between congress and the executive branch. The SCOTUS will hear Trumps case to block his tax returns. The Court will decide. See how this is supposed to work Chungy? The House should tear up the Obsrtuction of Congress article. They didn’t want to let the court decide. They had to impeach immediately before their support completely tanked.

We can explain this to people like CT till the cows come home, it will do know good. Some people simply can not admit when they are wrong. It's kinda sad.
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UC - so true - they hate Trump enough to abandon any governance of the nation.
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After hearing this from McConnell,


https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/mcco...ry?id=67775139


it looks like it will go down this why. Pay attention here CT cause I'm gonna "school ya". McConnell will say that he isn't calling any more witnesses. It would take 3 Republicans Senators to defect to the dark side and say, they want to hear the witnesses the Democrats are calling for. I do not believe they will get 3 Republicans Senators so a vote will be called for and there will be at least 51 Senators calling for acquittal and the trial will be over.



Then the pouting will begin.
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We can explain this to people like CT till the cows come home, it will do know good. Some people simply can not admit when they are wrong. It's kinda sad.
yes, I'm weeping right now, that your bullshit excuse of Executive Privilege" meant as a delay-tactic, didn't fly with me. it is so sad, I'm going to spin some Country music now.
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yes, I'm weeping right now, that your bullshit excuse of Executive Privilege" meant as a delay-tactic, didn't fly with me. it is so sad, I'm going to spin some Country music now.

Don't you just hate it when the law gets in your way?



Don't weep to much, the SC might just agree with you come June.



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