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Old 04-02-2011, 02:58 PM   #1
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http://www.montrealgazette.com/healt...673/story.html

Scientist discovers no twins identical, even if they look alike

Revolutionary genome finding; Research could change conventional thinking on medical treatment and human behaviour

BY MARK IYPE, POSTMEDIA NEWS MARCH 31, 2011


If you thought identical twins were identical, think again.

Canadian scientists have discovered that identical twins do not have identical genes, a common assumption by researchers for more than a century, and a development that could have implications into the study of medicine and human behaviour.

"That assumption has been with us since the beginning of time," said Shiva Singh, a molecular geneticist at the University of Western Ontario. "So this finding could be really revolutionary."

It was Singh's research into the relationship between heredity and schizophrenia that led him to his stunning discovery.

Singh had hypothesized that since the risk of developing schizophrenia is much higher if your siblings or your parents have the disease, the risk should be much greater for twins.

Identical, or monozygotic twins develop from a single fertilized egg that has split in two.

Based on previous research, their genetic makeup should be identical.

So if the disease was related strictly to genes, the incidence for pairs of identical twins should be 100 per cent. But studies show that the risk of the disease in both twins is only 50 per cent.

Singh figured either the twins do not share exact copies of their genes or the disease involves other random effects.

But after sequencing the DNA of twins and their parents, and looking at one million differences between their genes, Singh concluded that twins are not actually identical.

"Our results have really forced everyone to rethink the idea that identical twins are actually identical," he said.

Singh said cells increase or decrease the number of genes that they contain as they replicate.

And it is the variations in which genes and how we express them that make each individual - even identical twins - genetically unique, he said.

"The implication would be that there is nobody with the same human genome sequence," said Singh. "Everybody is different."

And because the process is constant, a pair of twins when they are 60 may have many more differences than when they are three years old, Singh said.

"The genome is very dynamic, not static. What you got from your parents is not what you have in the end," he said. "There is more to the story than that."

And he said the discovery could have major consequences for countless other fields, not just the biological sciences.

"If there are differences between twins, that could change the way research is conducted in a number of fields," Singh said.

Since the 1870s, when Sir Francis Galton published his work on what determines the characteristics of twins - nature versus nurture - they have been formal research subjects.

Because researchers could assume there would be no genetic differences between twins, they were the ideal test subjects for scientists examining everything from susceptibility to disease, to behavioural issues to psychological disorders.

One twin was the control and the other the variable.

But that luxury might no longer exist, said Singh, since everybody is a variable.

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Well, thank you for ruining a perfectly wonderful fantasy.
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Pyramider, they still LOOK alike ;-)
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Well, thank you for ruining a perfectly wonderful fantasy.
I know right...there goes my Twin sister fantasy
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I've had the pleasure of twin sisters and I can say that the fantasy is still there my friends.



Ooh baby ooh.
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Oh i am so sorry, i wasn`t thinking about ruining fantasies when i posted this. I know now what a shock it must be for kids when they find out santa claus doesn`t exist ;-).

Nevertheless - the look stays the same :-)). I hope this cheers all of you up a little ;-)),
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I'm kind of a genetics dummy, so if someone who isn't could clarify this I'd appreciate it!

I read an article a couple years back about epigenetics. Is this what the above is about or is it something entirely different?

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ki/Epigenetics
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Cool Well, my sister is the biologist, but....

As she explains it to her poor, dumb, uneducated brother (meaning I am the only member of my family to NOT possess a doctorate of some kind) DNA is sooooo yesterday, and this Human Genome stuff is it's replacement. Much more detailed and precise. So, even if we have similar enough DNA to appear identical, at this "genome level" we are actually very different.

That's how she dumbed it down for me, but I'm sure we have enough professionals onboard to make me sound like an idiot. Hope this Genetics For Dummies helps someone.....

to the scientists.

BTW, I'm Under Carrie, while she's hibernatin' Whoo-hoo! I miss you darlin...
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