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Old 10-18-2010, 11:04 AM   #1
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Default Death of a Gazprom manager

Is the death of Сергей Клюка (Sergei Klyuka) suicide or was he "suicided"?
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http://www.pravda.ru/news/accidents/...1053747-zas-0/
http://www.reuters.com/article/idAFLDE69H08K20101018
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Old 10-18-2010, 05:11 PM   #2
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Probably suicide,but in Russia anything is possible.
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Old 10-19-2010, 06:46 PM   #3
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Why should we care?
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Old 10-20-2010, 03:24 AM   #4
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Why I posted it here was this rather good comment from Woody:

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It amazes me just how non-educated the general public is of the energy sector. Noticed I said Energy and not Petroleum or Oil Company?



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Why should we care?
This obviously depends on what you find relevant or news-worthy. What I do know however (because friends/ acquaintances of mine were contacted) that the New York Slimes as well as the Wallstreet Urinal tried very hard to get behind this story.

That said even by post-soviet standards, it's a very odd death.
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So, you don’t like the NYT or the WSJ, but you do read Pravda? Very impressed, mi amigo.
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Old 10-21-2010, 02:18 AM   #6
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So, you don’t like the NYT or the WSJ, but you do read Pravda?
Dearest Olivia, what brings you to that conclusion?
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Old 10-21-2010, 09:21 AM   #7
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Dearest Olivia, what brings you to that conclusion?
I’m sorry. I re-read my post. I was in a hurry and wasn’t paying enough attention. It does come across as curt at the very least. I meant that I’m pretty impressed that you can read Pravda. When I clicked on the link I just wasn’t expecting Russian. I don’t know why; it’s a Russian news paper.

For the record, I’d bet he was murdered. Like Macksback said, “It’s Russia.”; and two, how can the gun be laying on the seat if he shot himself. I’d think it would be in his hand or thrown across the car or something.
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Old 10-21-2010, 09:36 AM   #8
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Default Somebody doesn't get it....probably me...

Haven't been around much lately so perhaps the poll question is a continuation of...or a goof on another thread. And, I certainly can't understand Russian.

Absent deeper understanding on my part with regard to either of those points, I don't "get" why the story warrants a poll question.

Is this a "stalking horse" to re-visit Vince Foster???
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Old 10-23-2010, 11:41 AM   #9
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Of course he was murdered. It's Russia. It's GAZPROM (one of the world's most opaque 'legal' organizations). Given the track record that the Russian business world has of of settling disputes the old-fashioned way (e.g., the Forbes editor a while back, all the journalists, etc.), suicide appears to be only a remote possibility. Of course, you could say that in a way he did commit suicide: he obviously pissed off somebody he shouldn't have.
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Is there even a doubt? Seriously.
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Old 10-28-2010, 12:02 PM   #11
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Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
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