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Old 06-20-2013, 09:28 PM   #1
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Default Gov. Kasich: God Wants Ohio to Expand Medicaid

This is a quandry. We all want religion out of politics, but here comes a Republican government using God to promote a Democrat policy, Obamacare. Now, do we decry the use of religion to pass legislation, or if we support the legislation, do we adopt the notion that religion is a proper form of coercement when we agree with the result? Who will be consistent on this?

I will. I think it is appalling for Governor Kasich to use God in an effort to push through a government program. Here's the article:

Governor John Kasich, a Republican, repeated his insistence that God wants Ohio to expand Medicaid when reporters brought up the topic on June 18. Kasich suggested anyone who opposes Medicaid expansion will have to answer for their opposition when they die.

Gov. Kasich said he recently told a state legislator, “I respect the fact that you believe in small government. I do too. I also happen to know that you’re a person of faith.”

“Now, when you die and get to the, get to the, uh, to the meeting with St. Peter, he’s probably not gonna ask you much about what you did about keeping government small, but he’s going to ask you what you did for the poor,” Kasich said. “Better have a good answer.”

Kasich leaned heavily on his Christian faith to push the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA) Medicaid expansion during his February 19 State of the State address, implying the only options were to dramatically increase entitlement spending or leave Ohio’s poor “out in the street.”

Also during his State of the State address – and in numerous appearances after – the governor misled legislators, the press, and the public about how PPACA Medicaid expansion funding works.

For months, Kasich has claimed billions in new federal spending would consist entirely of “Ohio’s tax dollars” and warned that “Ohio’s” PPACA Medicaid expansion funds will go to other states if the General Assembly rejects the expansion, inaccurately insisting nothing can stop PPACA spending.

Ohio’s legacy media have made no effort to hold Gov. Kasich accountable for those false statements, much as reporters have done nothing to scrutinize claims from health care lobbying groups that the state needs to expand Medicaid.

A transcript of Republican Governor Kasich’s June 18 comments to the press follows.

“I mean, all of these bills are in, and I’ve made it clear to them that we need it. I mean, here I’m talking to a business group, talking about how important it is. It’ll either be in the budget or it’ll be later but I just wanna make it clear: I will not give up this fight till we get this done, period, exclamation point.”

“I’ve, I’ve, I’ve, I’ve pleaded, I’ve argued, I’ve presented, it’s what it is in this business, so… I’m not gonna give this up, I will not. I don’t care how long it takes, hopefully it’ll be sooner rather than longer, I’m gonna do my best. And I’m being, as I told you last week, Joe, sometimes pleasantly persistent, and maybe persistent without all the pleasantness. I mean, we just have to get this done.”

“Ya know, because people are poor doesn’t mean they don’t work hard. Because people are poor doesn’t mean that – it sometimes means they couldn’t pull themselves up by their bootstraps at some point in time. The most important thing for this legislature to think about: put yourself in somebody else’s shoes.”

“Put yourself in the shoes of a mother and a father with an adult child that’s struggling. Walk in somebody else’s moccasins. Understand that, ya know, poverty is real, and that when people are poor… I’ll tell ya somethin’, I had a; I had a comment; I had a conversation with a, one of the leaders… wasn’t one of the leaders, but one of the members of the legislature the other day.”

“I said, ‘I respect the fact that you believe in small government. I do too. I also happen to know that you’re a person of faith. Now, when you die and get to the, get to the, uh, to the meeting with St. Peter, he’s probably not gonna ask you much about what you did about keeping government small, but he’s going to ask you what you did for the poor. Better have a good answer.’”

“I can’t go any harder than that! I got nothing left than that, so… and I wanna compliment Jan Brewer, the gov- the conservative governor of Arizona, um, nobody would’ve ever thought… and so, this is not a support of Obamacare, this a support of helping our communities, our health care systems, the poor, the disabled, the addicted, and the mentally ill. That’s what this is about, and we need to do it as Ohioans.”


Uh, Governor Kasich. The question St Peter will ask (according to your hypothetical) is "What have you done for the poor?" Your answer will be "I forced other Americans to cough up money they rightfully earned, through taxation by force, to give that money to those I deemed more worthy of having it than them. Yes, St. Peter, in other words, I stole their money, which I know breaks one Commandment, but it was for a good cause, and we disguised it under the color of law. I couldn't be bothered to give up any of my income to take care of them, so I forced others to do it for me. So, that proves I'm a good guy, and deserve to be let in."

Do you really think that will fly? Really? Does the fact that he pretends to know what God wants add any weight to his claim?

http://www.redstate.com/jasonahart/2...pand-medicaid/
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we decry the use of religion to pass anything, dipshit.
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Busy the Communist mother f***** thinks you can wonderful president
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Old 01-24-2021, 07:50 AM   #4
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Like this one better, WD? I can tell you’ll be nipping at my heels again today.

Maybe I’ll just have to post in another forum to see if you follow

Meanwhile rip...enough is enough.
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Old 01-24-2021, 07:59 AM   #5
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we decry the use of religion to pass anything, dipshit.
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The marxist DPST/ccp makes their hatred of and plan for elimination of Christianity and the jewish people quite clear.
Thank you for showing your intentions.

Can you get it done by 2022? - but you won't allow elections then anyway - marxist totalitarians who take all other for fools!


AOC's re-education camps and Omar/Tlaib ovens - national socialism Redux!
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Old 01-24-2021, 08:25 AM   #7
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The marxist DPST/ccp makes their hatred of and plan for elimination of Christianity and the jewish people quite clear.
Thank you for showing your intentions.

Can you get it done by 2022? - but you won't allow elections then anyway - marxist totalitarians who take all other for fools!


AOC's re-education camps and Omar/Tlaib ovens - national socialism Redux!
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Old 01-24-2021, 09:47 PM   #8
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another old thread from 2013...


2dogs you gotta stop this shit. lol.


kasich is a pos then, and hes a pos now!
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