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Old Yesterday, 09:06 PM   #46
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That's right. Just continue to ignore the article showing MULTIPLE DEMS making RECENT comments encouraging violence against ICE agents. Calling the Dems out on their violent rhetoric does not make us look bad. Complaining about it doesn't make you look very good.
I'm not ignoring anything. I am trying to put this into objective perspective. You misrepresent "MULTIPLE" as being some significantly large number. It is not.

I stand by what I said: 99+ percent of Democrats do not support violence in these protests.

Calling individuals out for abhorrent rhetoric and behavior would not make you look bad. Implying that millions of people are responsible for this is inaccurate, intentionally insulting, and furthers the divisiveness. .

And your last sentence is not at all justified. I asked you to stop with escalating these attacks to a personal level.

I have already done so.

However, that does not mean that I will not respond to your posts, especially if you continue to target mine. I just will no longer stoop to your level when I respond.

It is your choice whether to continue like this. But I would suggest that over time, you will look worse than me if you do.

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Phrasing your question this way maybe does make a point, but it's a cheap one that is generally irrelevant.

They crossed the unacceptable line from protester to violent criminal.

Hopefully, they can be identified and fully prosecuted to the maximum extent of the law.

99+ percent of protesters don't approve of this. I could go on....

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Not cheap or irrelevant, just inconvenient for your argument.

True

True

That's clearly not true. You can go on all you like.
I was hoping that you would not prove to be like this, that you were perhaps a bit more neutral and would also be more careful when you make your refutations. I'm starting to think that those hopes were premature.

But I can do this too...

1) Cheap and irrelevant was my opinion. Inconvenient is yours. But you seemingly add fuel to a thread that was started as a dog-whistle to encourage MAGA rhetoric (in my opinion, of course!). "Inconvenient" implies that it somehow casts doubt on my argument that the majority of people... even the Left... do not support violence. And it would do so... if you could actually demonstrate relevance (see #4 below).

2) At least we agree on the important stuff.

3) Ditto.

4) While I do not have published statistics to back up my claims to an absolute, mere common sense says that they are generally accurate. I offer one simple observation: in the VAST majority of recent protests, there was no violence whatsoever. The "No Kings" protests were estimated by some sources as drawing 5 MILLION people, with little reported violence. Meanwhile, this thread has focused on a relatively small number and has been used by some to misrepresent the reality. You should examine whether you have been sucked into that also. "Clearly not true" implies more than opinion. Backing that up could be challenging.

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I'm not ignoring anything. I am trying to put this into objective perspective. You misrepresent "MULTIPLE" as being some significantly large number. It is not.

I stand by what I said: 99+ percent of Democrats do not support violence in these protests.

Calling individuals out for abhorrent rhetoric and behavior would not make you look bad. Implying that millions of people are responsible for this is inaccurate, intentionally insulting, and furthers the divisiveness. .

And your last sentence is not at all justified. I asked you to stop with escalating these attacks to a personal level.

I have already done so.

However, that does not mean that I will not respond to your posts, especially if you continue to target mine. I just will no longer stoop to your level when I respond.

It is your choice whether to continue like this. But I would suggest that over time, you will look worse than me if you do.

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No you aren't. You're IGNORING the constant threats that are ONLY coming from the LEFT as far as attacking ICE agents. Stoop to my level? That's rich coming from YOU, a guy who does nothing but sling personal attacks and insults at anybody daring to disagree with him. YOUR party "leadership" endorses violence. And has for years. But keep living in that state of denial. You'll look a lot worse than any of us.
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