[Willen]

Krunkman,

I'm not trying to be argumentative, but there is a lot of ground between treating someone as a "piece of meat" and trying to cultivate an ongoing relationship of some level of seriousness outside the bounds of our hobby world. As a random example, I'll bet you're very polite and considerate toward salespeople with whom you interact. I used to get coffee at my corner convenience store and pretty quickly the clerk there would greet me each day. We got to joking regularly and asking if anything was wrong if one of us seemed off our game that day. But it never went beyond that. This is an imperfect analogy because in the hobby world there is physical intimacy (all fantasy of course, for those LE types who may be listening in,) which can lead us to think about emotional intimacy and consequent emotional attachment. But my point is that that there's no contradiction between treating someone well and having real boundaries.

[Black Sedan]

Originally Posted by EmilyHemingway

Rarely have I seen so much WTF in one place.

... Brilliant writing describing the braggart tool archetype clipped...

So, anyways, that's one common problem for the ladies. I dunno, anyone here ever run across a guy like that?

Realizing that this thread has been bumped...

Well the nice guy "girlfriend" isn't as much fun to laugh about. But the aforementioned tool: they are the biggest douchebags on the planet, and you can't help but audibly laugh when they start their crescendo of exaggerations. I've had some of the most fun people-watching with a date and listening in on the most ridiculous.

And not to hijack, but exhibiting such brilliance*and wit, EmilyHemingway is a candidate for the ginger-maned unicorn. I'm guessing since she is on hiatus, somebody has probably realized this already. Hopefully it's all good and nothing stalkerish going on to force her out.

[Krunkman]

Originally Posted by Willen

Krunkman,

I'm not trying to be argumentative, but there is a lot of ground between treating someone as a "piece of meat" and trying to cultivate an ongoing relationship of some level of seriousness outside the bounds of our hobby world. As a random example, I'll bet you're very polite and considerate toward salespeople with whom you interact. I used to get coffee at my corner convenience store and pretty quickly the clerk there would greet me each day. We got to joking regularly and asking if anything was wrong if one of us seemed off our game that day. But it never went beyond that. This is an imperfect analogy because in the hobby world there is physical intimacy (all fantasy of course, for those LE types who may be listening in,) which can lead us to think about emotional intimacy and consequent emotional attachment. But my point is that that there's no contradiction between treating someone well and having real boundaries.

Yeah, I realize there are gradiations of relations between everyone. It just seems that most conversations on the boards are min/max type. And trying to make your point using milder terms doesn't appear to do much good.

But everyone's mileage may vary. In the long run it don't really matter what anyone posts... just how the individual treats someone else.

Meh.

[Sweet Heather]

[quote=EmilyHemingway;103590]Rarely have I seen so much WTF in one place.

One common problem for the ladies is when they run across some complete tool who couldn't get a clue if one attacked him in a dark alley. It's all about him, but nothing is ever his fault. He's a special, unique little delicate snowflake of awesomeness, who just happens to have the social skills of a rabid gerbil. Sometimes he's the guy who likes to cuddle up to the ladies and talk about periods and how much men suck (See? I'm one of you!) because he thinks "nice" guys get all the nookie. Sometimes he's the guy who never leaves the locker room, talks about his dick like some men talk about fishing stories (It's eight inches! And she slobbered it like a puddin' pop! All ten inches of it! Yeah, and then she choked on my ball sack, because my 12 inch dick was too much for her!) and only shuts up about his dick and how much everyone loves it to talk about money and his f'ing sweet car.

In reality everyone thinks both sorts are, at best, a bit of a wanker.

So, anyways, that's one common problem for the ladies. I dunno, anyone here ever run across a guy like that?Uh....too many times to remember...[/quote]

Emily, you are my new hero!

[PullT]

Everything this douche posts is basically a question to the providers about how they deal with troublesome boundary-crossing with clients...or in other words, trying to figure out why the providers get creeped out with his own obsessions and boundary-crossing...

[EmilyHemingway]

Originally Posted by Black Sedan

And not to hijack, but exhibiting such brilliance*and wit, EmilyHemingway is a candidate for the ginger-maned unicorn. I'm guessing since she is on hiatus, somebody has probably realized this already. Hopefully it's all good and nothing stalkerish going on to force her out.

All is bueno. Definitely no psychos, just more cash than any sensible person would turn down. And now I'm going to have to do a search on ginger-maned unicorns (the ginger is obvious - redheads - but unicorns? Is this an obscure Obama thing? Something to do with blue water? I am intrigued.) Gracias on the compliments, they are always enjoyed.

[Black Sedan]

Originally Posted by EmilyHemingway

All is bueno. Definitely no psychos, just more cash than any sensible person would turn down. And now I'm going to have to do a search on ginger-maned unicorns (the ginger is obvious - redheads - but unicorns? Is this an obscure Obama thing? Something to do with blue water? I am intrigued.) Gracias on the compliments, they are always enjoyed.

That's great then. A guy might infer that you commenting on stalkers and noting being off the market might be a lady who has to hide from one....

No, nothing quite so esoteric. The newly coined phrase refers to the hunt for a oft desired mythical beast: a beautiful, intelligent, sane, marriageable redhead. It seems to be a running theme of our lives amongst a sector of us on ECCIE. Apparently many of us keep trying, and expecting different results. I suppose we're eternal optimists for continuing the hunt.

And I hope the concept doesn't offend any ladies that fancy themselves matching the description, as it's been observed that the glimpsed candidates are quite proud of their "spice". Or you know, it might be something wrong with us that brings it out in them. And questioning whether its an aesthetic, or the usually accompanying personal traits, inseparable from the "spice", which garner the attraction.

I can't begin to imagine how it's an Obama thing. But given the ridiculous allusions people are relating to my president, why not!

[CyberProf]

@likinikki - and here I was hoping you could be my hobby wife

But then that posses a whole new problem - how to find an excuse for the hobby wife to check out other providers . . . . hmmm . . . . doubles anyone?

As for marriageable redheads - remember the mating calls by hair type:
Brunette - "I'm horny and need to get laid"
Blonde - "I think i'm tipsy"
Redhead - "Next"

[Mokoa]

Originally Posted by PullT

Everything this douche posts is basically a question to the providers about how they deal with troublesome boundary-crossing with clients...or in other words, trying to figure out why the providers get creeped out with his own obsessions and boundary-crossing...

Nailed It!




Just as I posted in post 6...

Originally Posted by Mokoa

What? Are you kidding me?

No, the line is definitely not invisible.

All of use who possess any amount of common sense will know what behavior is acceptable and what is not.

Then there are those miscreants who choose to ignore the line they know exists and cross it anyway.

Invisible? A challenge?

Please! It has been my experience that those are just some of the bullshit excuses I have seen used by the miscreants to explain away their bad behavior.

[China Doll]

Mokoa, I once thanked you for "always telling it like it is." At this moment, I would like to extend that thank you to PullT as well. Keep up the good work, gents!

[EmilyHemingway]

Originally Posted by Black Sedan

No, nothing quite so esoteric. The newly coined phrase refers to the hunt for a oft desired mythical beast: a beautiful, intelligent, sane, marriageable redhead.

There's me out, then. I'm no more sane than the next person. Although, it has been at least three years since I threw a beer bottle at anyone's head, so we have improvement. Redhead's motto - "Fucker was asking for it."

I can't begin to imagine how it's an Obama thing. But given the ridiculous allusions people are relating to my president, why not!

That might be an obscure joke. Has to do with economics, and Obama having a magical unicorn which defecates rainbow Skittles and will bail everyone out.* Yes, his honeymoon is definitely over.

*Though I couldn't see how that might relate to redheads and hobbying.

[Natalie Reign]

Tip: Never, ever, ever allow the words "I love you" to escape your lips while in the throes of passion with a provider.

[caroline!]

Do you know how many men have told me they loved me? Do you know how man have asked me to MARRY them? It's disgusting.

when they ask, "if I hadn't met you as a client, do you think you would/could date me?" I usu smack that gum, smile and answer a question w a question: "baby, do you wanna fuck or what?!"

all that lovey dovey stupid bullshit I have feelings for you in this hooker world makes me sick. besides, I thought you men pay us to leave... oh and when I sign off: luv ya, kisses, etc. that means I DO NOT LITERALLY LOVE or that I'm in love w/ you, Ok?

Bottom Line: this is not a dating service. Prostitutes, Whores, Call Girl, Escorts, Courtesans, whatever the FUCK you wanna call us, we are NOT girlfriend material....Get It? Good!

[HSP]

Originally Posted by EmilyHemingway

There's me out, then. I'm no more sane than the next person. Although, it has been at least three years since I threw a beer bottle at anyone's head, so we have improvement. Redhead's motto - "Fucker was asking for it."

I know and I told you I was sorry, didn't know that a beer bottle could knock sooo much sense into someone .... :P

JK ... Sorry I couldn't resist! Sorry carry on with the thread.

HSP

[Fast Gunn]

Originally Posted by sensualcheri

Tip: Never, ever, ever allow the words "I love you" to escape your lips while in the throes of passion with a provider.

Originally Posted by caroline!

Do you know how many men have told me they loved me? Do you know how man have asked me to MARRY them? It's disgusting.

when they ask, "if I hadn't met you as a client, do you think you would/could date me?" I usu smack that gum, smile and answer a question w a question: "baby, do you wanna fuck or what?!"

all that lovey dovey stupid bullshit I have feelings for you in this hooker world makes me sick. besides, I thought you men pay us to leave... oh and when I sign off: luv ya, kisses, etc. that means I DO NOT LITERALLY LOVE or that I'm in love w/ you, Ok?

Bottom Line: this is not a dating service. Prostitutes, Whores, Call Girl, Escorts, Courtesans, whatever the FUCK you wanna call us, we are NOT girlfriend material....Get It? Good!

Well, I guess you ladies could not be any more clear in stating your position.

A customer telling a hooker that he loves her is a cardinal sin in your world.

Are there no exceptions or is this an iron-clad rule with providers?

I think I know why you might see this as a problem, but to clarify, can you ladies explain your rationale for this rule?