Don't Talk to Police - Prof. James Duane

[guynmotion]

Howdy, folks. I'm new here so I don't know if this has been posted before. Even if it has I think it's well worth posting again.

Since LE has no problem using entrapment to incriminate and prosecute citizens who are otherwise doing nothing wrong, it's important for all of us to know our rights and how to deal with aggressive, unethical behavior by LE. The video is just shy of 50 minutes long but well worth the time. For your own sake, and those of everyone you care about, take the time to watch.

Don't Talk to Police (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE)

I'd also recommend watching the 10 Rules for Dealing with Police series of videos on the Flex Your Rights channel on Youtube (https://www.youtube.com/user/FlexYourRights). Again, well worth your time.

[ck1942]

Welcome!

More info on this topic:

http://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=41726

Here's the thing imo:

By the time you are confronted by the LEOs, it is way to late to fret about taking a ride. You might well beat the rap, but insist on a seat belt.

Much better, imo, to avoid situations where LEOs will take you downtown.

Research all possibilities before you decide on an encounter.

[Rando_01]

Originally Posted by ck1942

Much better, imo, to avoid situations where LEOs will take you downtown.

As a semi-regular hobbyist, I tend to believe outcalls are safer.

If LEOs are setting up a sting, it would make sense for them to set up a hotel room or similar, place an ad, and wait for people to show up. Am I wrong? Honest question, no sarcasm intended here.

Not to mention the dangerous nature of some incalls anyway! Shady hotels.... provider disagreements (I haven't had any, but lets face facts not everyone out there is exactly mentally stable)... management getting involved... I just feel safer requesting an outcall.

[tandyscone]

Originally Posted by Rando_01

As a semi-regular hobbyist, I tend to believe outcalls are safer.

If LEOs are setting up a sting, it would make sense for them to set up a hotel room or similar, place an ad, and wait for people to show up. Am I wrong? Honest question, no sarcasm intended here.

Not to mention the dangerous nature of some incalls anyway! Shady hotels.... provider disagreements (I haven't had any, but lets face facts not everyone out there is exactly mentally stable)... management getting involved... I just feel safer requesting an outcall.

From a hobbyist's perspective that's true. From a provider's perspective, perhaps not so much.

[Guest030824]

Where I live there is no prostitution law used. They use the SOB law(sexual owned business) the cops during election time will ask a girl(usually BP)to come to a room. The BP has pictures of the provider. They issue her a $388.00 dollar ticket. They don't arrest her she has to appear in court to pay the fine. Other than at election times the cops don't give a damn. Hell I have set up dates from a squad car. The only question I had from him was to ask if I had a good time the next time I saw him. A provider and I met a cop friend of mine for lunch on the way to Bossier City. He asked me later if I knew I was breaking the Mann act taking her out of state? I guess the religious leaders have demanded some thing be done with street walkers but we don't do any thing in public to have a little fun. I have wondered about getting stopped for a traffic infraction with a provider in the car. Both times it has happened I did know her RL name but saying this is my friend hot pussy won't cut it.

[Fancylady]

Originally Posted by tucson

Where I live there is no prostitution law used. They use the SOB law(sexual owned business) the cops during election time will ask a girl(usually BP)to come to a room. The BP has pictures of the provider. They issue her a $388.00 dollar ticket. They don't arrest her she has to appear in court to pay the fine. Other than at election times the cops don't give a damn. Hell I have set up dates from a squad car. The only question I had from him was to ask if I had a good time the next time I saw him. A provider and I met a cop friend of mine for lunch on the way to Bossier City. He asked me later if I knew I was breaking the Mann act taking her out of state? I guess the religious leaders have demanded some thing be done with street walkers but we don't do any thing in public to have a little fun. I have wondered about getting stopped for a traffic infraction with a provider in the car. Both times it has happened I did know her RL name but saying this is my friend hot pussy won't cut it.

No hot pu$$y going to stop police arresting hooker.Police want to shut down illegal business. No reason to talk to police

[Guest030824]

HUH?

[Dani Luv]

I may not be new as in young but in the few months I have been involved in this it was only on out calls that I have had bad things happen. Imagine being a woman Men as a rule are physically stronger than woman and then put yourself in an unfamiliar City. You may not really have anymore real control other than that you don't have to open the door. When you have to come to us it's the only time you will feel the fear of the unknown. never at the level we do I don't think but I will as a rule after learning the hard way ( got lucky only) I only go to out call if I can verify with provider that I know or after meeting at least one previous time.

[Guest030824]

AF I don't truly understand what you ladies must go through each time you meet a new client. I feel a small part when I meet with a new provider. I do not know how you manage to show up with a smile when you have the fear of what you may face. I do hope you screen carefully I have been lucky to meet some wonderful women in my brief time here.

[Taylor Made719]

Outcalls that you can verify the gentlemen not only can u get hurt but there are places where the police will have an apartment or house as far as you guys being scared of incalls you have no reason to be if u do your homework make sure she is highly reviewed google her posted id from backpage it will show all other ads if any google her phone number I haven't changed my in years with that being said never admit quilt on yourself and always have a jury trial 95% of the time they have no real evidence against u. Unless your stupid enough to talk about sexual favors an escort truly means to spend time for money its not like we are advertising under prostitution

[Lucky 1]

Originally Posted by tucson

AF I don't truly understand what you ladies must go through each time you meet a new client. I feel a small part when I meet with a new provider. I do not know how you manage to show up with a smile when you have the fear of what you may face. I do hope you screen carefully I have been lucky to meet some wonderful women in my brief time here.

What these girls must be feeling when they show up to an appointment....I've thought about this very thing so many times...and frankly don't know how they do it.

I will never forget my first experience with a brand new provider (see my review of Liliana) brand new as in I was the very first one she saw.

Liliana had never been a provider and had never wanted to be.....she had recently moved to Houston for a new job...which promptly fell through.....she met a couple of girls that she became friends with (having NO idea they were part time providers) and one day was telling her friends how she was running out of money and faced with moving back home and how poor the job market seemed to be....

Her friends broached the subject of what they were doing for extra cash (providing) with Liliana...after her initial shock wore off they talked about it and her friends told her "its no big deal, just go have sex and walk out with $300 bucks" easy peazy!

So her friends put her photo in a provider ad here on eccie...I saw it and thought YUM! I want her and set a time at my hotel (a nice 4 star)

Liliana shows up right on time...dressed not so much like a provider but looking like she was all dressed up for a date....and so nervous you could feel it....I met her in the lobby and its good i did...I doubt she would have had the courage to actually make it up to the room...right off the bat she told me that she almost backed out a dozen times but her friends kept encouraging her to give it a try....

we sit down in the lobby talk a bit and she just comes right out and tells me that she's never done this before and never even considered it and that she's so nervous that her stomach feels funny...she's says she's been all afternoon imagining some ugly,fat pervert old man touching her and on top of her and that she actually cried a little while getting ready....She says I was not what she was imagining or expecting and I seem like a really nice and even handsome guy....

and came right out and asked me why I did this...since she was being so honest and open about what she was feeling... I told her the truth...been married twice...my second wife died (way too young)a few years back.. I travel a lot with my job and between that and helping take care of a couple of young grandsons...I just don't feel up for getting into a normal relationship...yet I love woman and love having sex...so here I am...

...Finally she gets comfortable enough to at least come up to the room....and if you're interested in that...read the review.

I will say that it is the single best hobby experience I've ever had....it was more like making love to a real girl friend than any thing else...I'd booked for an hour but it ended up being more like two and a half hours...neither of us even bothered to look at the time ...she didn't last long and I knew she wouldn't...just not cut out for it...

Three years later I still think about her....this beautiful young woman who was so open with her feelings and just wearing her heart on her sleeve....and when she cross's my mind I smile, wish her well and hope she's okay.....and that maybe she met some nice young man who loves her and treats her the way she deserves to be treated....


And I know this has NOTHING to do with this thread...sorry...guess I just needed to let that out..