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Old 04-16-2015, 09:07 PM   #1
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I had a provider in Oklahoma last year have me meet her downstairs in the lobby of the hotel for an outcall. This was a relatively nice 5-star with 20+ people chatting by a fireplace, a bar, and lounging couches in the lobby. Needless to say, I was a bit nervous about this the first time.

She stated the police cannot meet you outside of the room and take you into the room for a sting. This struck me similar as asking, "Are you a cop?" or having the client grab them to prove you are not a cop type theatrics. Is this a true condition for not getting caught in a sting?

She explained later walking in as an appropriately dressed hotel guest attracts less attention than a lady walking in alone to a room or sneaking to a side door and having the client open the door as well. If a security guard sees the same woman sneaking through a side door over several occasions, he may ask her to leave, detain, call the cops etc. But he would NEVER say a word if a hotel guest met the lady in the lobby and walked her to his room. She could be niece, sister, etc., and he would not risk insulting a guest. Is this true or BS?
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Old 04-17-2015, 06:55 AM   #2
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She stated the police cannot meet you outside of the room and take you into the room for a sting. This struck me similar as asking, "Are you a cop?" or having the client grab them to prove you are not a cop type theatrics. Is this a true condition for not getting caught in a sting?
I'm no authority on Oklahoma prostitution laws because I practice in Texas, but I can't imagine a hobbyist defending against a prostitution charge in any jurisdiction by arguing the provider met the hobbyist in a hotel's lobby. The whole idea seems silly to me. Also, contrary to popular belief, if a cop denies being a cop, or a cop posing as a provider (or a hobbyist, for that matter) allows touching, that's not 'entrapment' or any other viable legal defense to a charge of prostitution. Cops are allowed to lie -- in fact, it's part and parcel of working in an undercover capacity to lie (duh). A cop can engage in touching and that wouldn't negate the elements of the offense of prostitution.

Frankly, I don't understand the girl's theatrics. A prudent provider would enter a hotel, appropriately dressed, check into her room, and meet her client there. Opening side doors to let a client in or meeting a client in the lobby just exposes the provider and the hobbyist to public view and increases the chances of drawing the interest of LE.
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Old 04-17-2015, 10:08 PM   #3
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Thank you ShysterJon.
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