Who all thinks Doc Holiday is a Dick?

[SCRAP]

Originally Posted by perfectdevil

I started hobbying to get away from all the bullshit, to the providers: if he is such a hassle then just don't see him and your problems are solved.
To my fellow hobbyist: who gives a fuck? Really? Doc isn't coming into your home and fucking you, if you really have an issue with him then just don't see the girls that he sees. That last suggestion may leave you with limited options but there are at least two providers that you know you can visit.
Now before any one says anything: No I don't have a dog in this fight, Doc and I have no issues with each other but on that same token I have never met him and do not know if any of the ladies claims are accurate or total crap, just tired of the drama, grow up and stop acting like a bunch of children.

...a LOT of +1 sentences if that paragraph.

[Ms Francisca]

Originally Posted by perfectdevil

I started hobbying to get away from all the bullshit, to the providers: if he is such a hassle then just don't see him and your problems are solved.

What would you recommend for the lady that refused to see him and then he sent a naked picture of her to her boyfriend.
What about the other lady that refused to see him and eventually had to call the police when she was harassed in her home?
Or the other lady that never met him but he kindly let her know he knew where her incall was? ...... I can continue, but please start by giving your advice on this circumstances

To my fellow hobbyist: who gives a fuck? Really? Doc isn't coming into your home and fucking you, if you really have an issue with him then just don't see the girls that he sees. That last suggestion may leave you with limited options but there are at least two providers that you know you can visit.

If a provider ever scams you, robs you (as many do) please don't be offended when I say "who gives a crap, she is not stealing from providers"

there are 2 speaking today, you obviously have not followed any of the links and read of the many other providers that refuse to see him.

Now before any one says anything: No I don't have a dog in this fight, Doc and I have no issues with each other but on that same token I have never met him and do not know if any of the ladies claims are accurate or total crap, just tired of the drama, grow up and stop acting like a bunch of children.

No, you don't know if these claims are accurate or crap. But, if you do a little reading, you will know that within days of ladies speaking against him he was dismissed as a moderator?
Do you honestly think that a group of providers can simply make negative accusations against a moderator, without any proof, and "Poof" he is no longer a mod?

Besos,
Francisca

[EMZ1215]

I think the main issue at the core of this discussion is whether this community truly cares about the safety of its members (both providers and hobbyists). The ladies have raised legitimate concerns that according to them endangers their safety,privacy and livelihood. To dismiss these concerns as simply "drama" does a great disservice to the entire community.

The ladies have claimed they have evidence that proves their concerns. Well then, I think it's only appropriate that the moderators and administrators review this evidence and render a decision. If Doc is found to have harassed this women, he should face a suspension or ban. If the evidence shows that there was no wrongdoing, then Doc's name should be cleared.

We need to be able to face this types of issues with reason and due process. It's the only way this community will remain strong.

By the way, Happy Fourth of July to everybody. May you enjoy it with the people that you love.

[nedsum121]

Apologies accepted sweetheart i to can be a loudmouth at times and sometimes say things that can be taken the wrong way. I hated it the last time we had this much dramma. I.have always had a thing for outsiders posting sorry...

Ill leave it with this. If he shorted you shame on him. If he wanted bb thats between a provider and him. Its becoming a huge problem up north and something bad is going to happen. There are several providers visiting rgv who openely advertise it on there menu because guys want it. Look in your own back yard how many are posting no bbservice or bb with a fee why... because guys are asking...

Mokoa may not close it but there not much more that can be said.

Doc can ask every provider for it and it is up to the provider if she wants to or not. Shorting is one thing asking for a service is something else. Now he does it without asking thats a huge problem.

Damm scrap entertaining they could do a tela novela on this.

[JohnnyYanks]

We wonders if the see no evil hear no evil crowd worries about providers becoming emboldened by reading this thread and subsequently reporting on other (local) monger transgressions? Hmmm.

[nedsum121]

My thoughts exactly! JY. Trying to be the voice of reason... makes you think if you rub a provider the wrong way or dont have a good session.. it cuts both ways... that why this thread does not end well... think big picture not just doc...hopefully im wrong...

[proteus317]

Originally Posted by JohnnyYanks

We wonders if the see no evil hear no evil crowd worries about providers becoming emboldened by reading this thread and subsequently reporting on other (local) monger transgressions? Hmmm.

Originally Posted by nedsum121

My thoughts exactly! JY. Trying to be the voice of reason... makes you think if you rub a provider the wrong way or dont have a good session.. it cuts both ways... that why this thread does not end well... think big picture not just doc...hopefully im wrong...

Providers should be able to voice their concerns. If you are worried about false reports, that usually gets exposed.

[bald eagle]

Well said, EMZ

[EveParadise]

My personal opinion of Doc:
Very respectful and sweet.

A smart ass but I like that. I love a challenge.

Any time that I have ever seen Doc in or out of hobby, he has always been a gentleman and sweet and soon respectful to me. I get goosebumps around him. He is the only hobbyist that is allowed to occupy my time now that I am retired. Take it for what its worth. Anyone that knows me knows I never tolerate disrespect.

[EveParadise]

Oops I meant sooo not soon

[bald eagle]

Doc, I've written NO misleading reviews - but I'm quite sure YOU did of the lady we both saw. And feel free to call me a WK (your term for a member who only wishes to see providers treated respectfully, even when they decline to do what you ask) for Majesty. I've seen her a few times and have come to respect her as a member and one who is truthful in this and other matters. Finally, you said you were disappointed in me, so let me respond: I do not give a damn what you think of me. Give your pompous opinions to someone who cares.

[nedsum121]

Aaa guys fyi they have there own area just like our private lounge. Now the voice of reason says you have axes to grind because you just proved it. Posting on open forum is like letting the ladies in the mens area. You know what threads im talking about on service so dont play dumb. Maybe if you post a review or two go into the private lounges of rgv SA Austin you see what im talking about... or ask a friend... thats why i call it drama because your talking about old news Asking for bb is not alret worthy anymore unfortantly is now common and in my opinion will end badly but again thats personal choice So since doc asks for it he should be crusafied but the providers that openly sell it get a pass. Hypocritical dont you think... i can start pm you the lists of providers who openly offer it those who have it for there special customers so again... there a bunch in your area and pages full in SA. So tred lightly my friend your not well informed on this topic...

[nedsum121]

And we all know shorting gets posted in the alerts and womens area or is that only for everyone else but doc. Call a spade a spade this thread was allowed because you are tired of his sarcastic ways. Hey i dont know him or franchesca or half the guys who are posting. But your just making waves that are not needed not nessary. To bad we dont know if franchesca posted an alert in SA and how the other providers reacted. But im sure someone will find out.

It probably just like bb. 50 percent love him 50 cant stand him. So again whats the alert? He shorted her... ok dont see him tell your friends move on. For every guy who posts 10 guys dont its like reviews. Dont you think with all the accusations franchesca gona get hurt hell yes. The normal eccie member plays wrights a review goes home to his real life. How many normal guys you think want to get involved with any of this or any provider who openly posts on a client... none... thats why its bad all the way around. Said it in the begining and again now the tread is bad and hurting everyone...

[goelie]

Well if there is one thing i can say for sure about this thread that is a FACT , that is, it's definitely an actual co-ed discussion thread!!! Good job lol

[DownForWhatever]

Originally Posted by goelie

Well if there is one thing i can say for sure about this thread that is a FACT , that is, it's definitely an actual co-ed discussion thread!!! Good job lol

Finally!