I guess I became popular and trust worthy with everything that has occurred during the last week. I have been contacted by a few providers here to my surprise. A first for me as I'm usually contacting them.
After discussion with a few providers who confided in me that there are issues with some guys. I did ask if it was ok to post our conversation and they were ok with it as long as the handles were left off. So, in a nutshell it seems ztonk's statement is correct. There are guys here who attempt to bareback and it pisses the providers off.
The providers did mention that they read this post and made a couple of points. (1) They would not go to Whispers because one second he is calling them a lady and the next second he is raping then them through the coals (2) It is their problem not his (3) They believe that this thread was to tie OPEC guys to barebacking. Of the OPEC members they know they have not had an issue with this but they do know that there has been an issue with a TBU guy (no name provided, no name asked, and none will be given).
So, that is it in a nutshell.
This is a problem but I don't see what can be done about it. Trying to create an offline e-mail for providers to send personal info when they don't trust you is not going to work. Also, after having this discussion with the providers the way it came across to me is that we don't run their business. I do hope that every provider is safe and they are not stalked and terrorized.
I think that the best solution to the problem is this, for this to be handled in in the Powder Room - "How To Deal with Guys who Act This Type of Behavior."
This will provide anonymity maybe. I don't know but I think it is best for the ladies to figure it out how to deal with the creeps. Why would they believe a guy when a guy has been the problem. Its just my opinion.
I've never been to an outing so I've never met anyone. There is one TBU member they've nicknamed SHREK who they are glad that they see once. I won't go into why. I really would like to know who that is.
In the end guys, we are here to have fun. Respect the ladies.
Thanks to SL and Whispers for making me popular among the ladies.
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Originally Posted by ztonk
This is one of those threads that if it had been started by a less controversial poster in a less combative/confrontational manner, it would have generated some much needed discussion in the community.
The ugly truth is that there are men in the hobby who are harming the women here. I use the word "harm" because there are any number of ways this manifests itself: - Physically forcing a lady to do something
- Coercing or intimidating a lady into doing something that she'd prefer not to do to avoid a potential physical confrontation
- Having unprotected sex without a lady's consent
- Blackmailing a lady to provide services or discounted services in exchange for not outing them to their family/coworkers/landlord
I was talking to a provider a few weeks ago and she told me that almost every lady she knows in the hobby has been a victim of some kind of aggression. Think about that: almost every lady. That's just wrong. And this from a lady with impeccable reviews and screening.
What Whispers, in his usual bombastic way, is saying is that there are groups off of this board that share their exploits so that others can victimize these women again. And he theorizes that some of the guys who belong to these groups are also members here. Ladies who have been victims are afraid to come forward since they don't want to be ridiculed, or lose custody of their kids, or get thrown out by their landlord, or lose their job, or have a crazed psycho show up for an appointment and physically harm her, or worse.
How about if we discuss THAT instead of trading barbs?
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