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Old 01-22-2024, 12:19 AM   #196
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One more time. The SARS_CoV2 virus is a MUTATING virus, like Influenza_A (seasonal flu).

When the SARS_CoV2 virus tries to make a copy of itself, there are changes in the SPIKE protein component.

The Antigen / Antibody relationship is very specific. When there is one amino acid change in the protein string, you have a new protein (thus you would new a antibody to neutralize the new protein). This why there is a new vaccine for seasonal flu every Sept. The alpha, beta, delta and now Omicron variants have mutated faster than once a year.

Thus a new variant becomes the dominant strain more frequently than once a year with SARS_CoV2. This is why fully vaccinated people with all the boosters can get infected a second time.

Remember with Influenza_A (seasonal flu) the vaccine for that season, is only good for that year. Influenza_A's mutating pattern is only once a year (much slower than SARS_CoV2).

The mutating pattern for SARS_CoV2 is starting to slow, but has not stablized to once a year( that a new variant becomes the dominant strain). Just review the timelines for when the alpha, beta, delta, Omicron variants became the new dominant strain of SARS_CoV2 virus.

With the vaccines you get as a kid before going to public school all of those viruses are non mutating virus. You get the vaccine as a kid and then get a booster 35 to 40 years later. This would not work for Influenza_A or SARS_CoV2 virus. These two viruses are mutating once every 12 months or less.

Have a nice day.

one more time. it's a flu shot.


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Old 01-22-2024, 12:35 AM   #197
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one more time. it's a flu shot.


thank you valued poster
Did you understand anything that was written? Yes, it's a flu shot. When you are talking about a flu shot for SARS_CoV2, it will only be good for the dominant strain that the flu shot was made for. Once you have a new dominant strain the flu shot is not going to work.

I.E. The flu shot for Inlfuenza_A in 2018 is not going to work in 2019 flu season. A flu shot for 2019 would need to be made.

Your problem is you don't see the difference between a virus that mutates and one that does not.

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Did you understand anything that was written? Yes, it's a flu shot. When you are talking about a flu shot for SARS_CoV2, it will only be good for the dominant strain that the flu shot was made for. Once you have a new dominant strain the flu shot is not going to work.

I.E. The flu shot for Inlfuenza_A in 2018 is not going to work in 2019 flu season. A flu shot for 2019 would need to be made.

Your problem is you don't see the difference between a virus that mutates and one that does not.

Have a nice day.

all viruses mutate starting with the flu and the covid flu. but you knew that right?


there are at least 7 SARS viruses so far. 3 mutated themselves out of existence. the rest persist as the flu.


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Old 01-22-2024, 01:16 AM   #199
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all viruses mutate starting with the flu and the covid flu. but you knew that right?

This^^^^ is WRONG. The viruses you get the shots for as a kid to attend elementary school ARE NOT mutating viruses. (Every time it makes a copy of itself, you get an exact/identical copy). That is not the case for Influenza_A or SARS_CoV2 virus.

there are at least 7 SARS viruses so far. 3 mutated themselves out of existence. the rest persist as the flu.

The above the wording is mixed up. Will fix at a later date. There are three Corona viruses that are out of existence. The rest of what you wrote is mixed up.


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Will do at a later date.
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Old 01-22-2024, 01:58 AM   #200
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Will do at a later date.

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all viruses mutate starting with the flu and the covid flu. but you knew that right?

This^^^^ is WRONG. The viruses you get the shots for as a kid to attend elementary school ARE NOT mutating viruses. (Every time it makes a copy of itself, you get an exact/identical copy). That is not the case for Influenza_A or SARS_CoV2 virus.



did i say anything about that? measles? mumps? polio? no i did not and i had every of those as a child because my parents as intelligent people made sure i did

this isn't the same thing don't try to claim it is

there are at least 7 SARS viruses so far. 3 mutated themselves out of existence. the rest persist as the flu.

The above the wording is mixed up. Will fix at a later date. There are three Corona viruses that are out of existence. The rest of what you wrote is mixed up.


interesting you corroborate what i posted but claim it's "messed up"


be interesting to see how you explain that
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Old 01-24-2024, 07:10 AM   #201
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all viruses mutate starting with the flu and the covid flu. but you knew that right?

This^^^^ is WRONG. The viruses you get the shots for as a kid to attend elementary school ARE NOT mutating viruses. (Every time it makes a copy of itself, you get an exact/identical copy). That is not the case for Influenza_A or SARS_CoV2 virus.



did i say anything about that? measles? mumps? polio? no i did not and i had every of those as a child because my parents as intelligent people made sure i did

this isn't the same thing don't try to claim it is

there are at least 7 SARS viruses so far. 3 mutated themselves out of existence. the rest persist as the flu.

The above the wording is mixed up. Will fix at a later date. There are three Corona viruses that are out of existence. The rest of what you wrote is mixed up.


interesting you corroborate what i posted but claim it's "messed up"


be interesting to see how you explain that
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Consider these two sentences.

1. All viruses mutate.

2. All corona viruses mutate.

Sentence #1 is false.

Sentence # 2 is true.

In a prior post you wrote sentence #1.

You're welcome valued poster.
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So, "Gain Of Function" manipulations worked then.
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So, "Gain Of Function" manipulations worked then.
The concept of gain of function works. It was not applied with the SARS_CoV2 virus at the Wu Han lab. The nearest relative to SARS_Cov2 virus (in terms of structure) was hundreds of miles away from the Wu Han Lab.

SARS_CoV2 virus evolved from the wild. The animal transfer to humans most likely happened at the wet market. It's just not known which animal was it. Patient #1 was a female lab worker from a lab on the other side of town.

The furin cleavage appeared due to a mutation and went away due to a mutation. Only two variants of SARS_CoV2 virus have the Furin cleavage, the original strain (no greek letter nickname) from Wu Han and the delta variant. No other variant of SARS_CoV2 virus has/had the Furin Cleavage.
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