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Old 12-02-2021, 03:17 PM   #16
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ANYTHING can get you in trouble if you don't keep your mouth shut!

DO NOT TALK TO POLICE!

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE
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Old 12-05-2021, 06:30 PM   #17
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That’s just silly. Banging hookers, or anyone else for that matter isn’t a “necessity for life”. It might make someone miserable, but lack of pussy isn’t going to kill someone within minutes or days (or any other amount of time) like lack of air or water.
I just want to politely ask, please don't say "hooker."
It's not a polite term, and us ladies don't like it.
It feels disrespectful.

We like: escort, provider, companion, call girl

This is TMI, but I'll share with you in the hope you make a connection here with what I'm saying. Back years ago when I first became an escort, a man I met with called me the term you used. He asked, "So how long have you been a ___?"

And I felt (for sure) he had to be nuts or about to kill me. We all know (I thought, at least) that men AND women use the term when making a joke or talking about an escort negatively.

That's why it's never acceptable to say "hooker." Apparently, there's some history behind the word. But regardless, it means what society says it means today. Some people say a bitch is a dog in heat, but we all know what it means in 2021.

Every time me or another escort hears the term, we feel a punch in the gut; we feel disrespected. It's time to stop using this term. We are on ECCIE, a forum all about making this industry safer, bringing people together. This term does the opposite!

And interestingly, you'll notice that a person of law will always use a term like this or "prostitute" because they don't approve (or that's the image they want).

As I said...

It's not a polite term, and us ladies don't feel appreciated when we hear it. It marginalizes people. Makes a mockery of people. Anyone who disrespects providers should not be on Eccie.

And maybe you're superman. A lack of intimacy, a lack of sex, a lack of touch, it does kill. It takes time. Ask any man on this forum. It kills women, too. It kills the spirit. Kills our human nature. Our happiness. Oftentimes, people push down their needs and forget all about having needs. That's a coping mechanism.

Yes, intimacy and sex are just as important as air or water. We can go without them, too, but that's called starving.
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Old 12-05-2021, 07:37 PM   #18
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I just want to politely ask, please don't say "hooker."
It's not a polite term, and us ladies don't like it.
It feels disrespectful.

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I agree. The term hasn't aged well. And I've never heard anyone use it except angry spouses.
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Old 12-06-2021, 05:38 PM   #19
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I agree. The term hasn't aged well. And I've never heard anyone use it except angry spouses.
I appreciate your input, FLWriter
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Old 12-07-2021, 11:10 AM   #20
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Shit hooker lol in the Louisiana board they say Whore....lol
What happened to provider or just Ms, Lady Woman Mam
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Old 12-18-2021, 09:17 AM   #21
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I know several providers who took him up on his Reno trips and confirmed they walked across state lines.

I always thought he was nuts and brought more attention to himself with all those providers walking across time Stateline.
He does underscore how silly the law is, though. Reminds me of the time Washington D.C. police literally escorted prostitutes across the bridge into Virginia. The State slogan is ''Virginia is for Lovers''. Apparently D.C. confused love and sex.
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Old 12-21-2021, 12:08 PM   #22
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I can say that in KS, that’s not true. I got busted last month (court tomorrow) and it’s just a misdemeanor.
Hope it was Kimmy. Then it’s worth the hassle.
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Old 01-02-2022, 12:20 PM   #23
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I have been called a man whore and have no problem with it. I have met ladies that want you to call them whore, cum slut, cum pocket and while they are saying fuck me daddy.
It is a hobby so no offense should be taken either way as it is a game for money.
If your feelings get hurt in this hobby you are in the wrong hobby.
Out of the hobby room I say yes mam and no mam and pretty woman.
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Old 01-03-2022, 12:09 PM   #24
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I have been called a man whore and have no problem with it. I have met ladies that want you to call them whore, cum slut, cum pocket and while they are saying fuck me daddy.
It is a hobby so no offense should be taken either way as it is a game for money.
If your feelings get hurt in this hobby you are in the wrong hobby.
Out of the hobby room I say yes mam and no mam and pretty woman.
I think as long as it agreed on beforehand, then there is no issue but otherwise it isn't necessary.
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Old 01-12-2022, 11:54 AM   #25
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This appears to be the wording of the law in question. As Woody said, the Mann Act has even been used to prosecute people for transporting girlfriends and extra-marital lovers across state lines, although I'm not sure prosecutors would do that in this day and age.

SEC. 2. That any person who shall knowingly transport or cause to be transported, or aid or assist in obtaining transportation for, or in transporting, in interstate or foreign commerce, or in any Territory or in the District of Columbia, any woman or girl for the purpose of prostitution or debauchery, or for any other immoral purpose, or with the intent and purpose to induce, entice, or compel such woman or girl to become a prostitute or to give herself up to debauchery, or to engage in any other immoral practice; or who shall knowingly procure or obtain, or cause to be procured or obtained, or aid or assist in procuring or obtaining, any ticket or tickets, or any form of transportation or evidence of the right thereto, to be used by any woman or girl in interstate or foreign commerce, or in any Territory or the District of Columbia, in going to any place for the purpose of prostitution or debauchery, or for any other immoral purpose, or with the intent or purpose on the part of such person to induce, entice, or compel her to give herself up to the practice of prostitution, or to give herself up to the practice of debauchery, or any other immoral practice, whereby any such woman or girl shall be transported in interstate or foreign commerce, or in any Territory or the District of Columbia, shall be deemed guilty of a felony, and upon conviction thereof shall be punished by a fine not exceeding five thousand dollars, or by imprisonment of not more than five years, or by both such fine and imprisonment, in the discretion of the court.

SEC. 3. That any person who shall knowingly persuade, induce, entice, or coerce, or cause to be persuaded, induced, enticed, or coerced, or aid or assist in persuading, inducing, enticing or coercing any woman or girl to go from one place to another in interstate or foreign commerce, or in any Territory or the District of Columbia, for the purpose of prostitution or debauchery, or for any other immoral purpose, or with the intent and purpose on the part of such person that such woman or girl shall engage in the practice of prostitution or debauchery, or any other immoral practice, whether with or without her consent, and who shall thereby knowingly cause or aid or assist in causing such woman or girl to go and be carried or transported as a passenger upon the line or route of any common carrier or carriers in interstate or foreign commerce, or any Territory or the District of Columbia, shall be deemed guilty of a felony and on conviction thereof shall be punished by a fine of not more than five thousand dollars, or by imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years, or by both fine and imprisonment, in the discretion of the court.


https://www.pbs.org/kenburns/unforgi...act-full-text/
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Very informative
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Old 01-16-2022, 06:10 PM   #27
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And maybe you're superman. A lack of intimacy, a lack of sex, a lack of touch, it does kill. It takes time. Ask any man on this forum. It kills women, too. It kills the spirit. Kills our human nature. Our happiness. Oftentimes, people push down their needs and forget all about having needs. That's a coping mechanism.

Yes, intimacy and sex are just as important as air or water. We can go without them, too, but that's called starving.
My life has lacked enough intimacy and sex, and that lack does damage a person. They, intimacy and sex, are a legitimate need of life. They are about far more than just pleasure and a fleeting good feeling.
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Old 01-17-2022, 11:52 AM   #28
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If anyones life is so miserable from lack of "Intimacy/Sex/yada yada yada", then leave the person that you are with and stop cheating already. You have no one to blame but... Yourself if You Feel Damaged from years of lack of yada yada yada. And find the person that WILL fulfill the needs that you DO require (for real) without having to pay for them (not real). If you're single, get your ass out there and date. All you're doing is Temporarily filling a Void anyways by Paying an "Escort" to Pretend to be all of those needs that You require. It's Not Genuine or Real.

And Intimacy/Sex is NOT even close to being a Necessity to Survive like "Air or Water". That's Bullshit. And anyone that Believes that has some Deep Rooted Emotional Issues going on that Selling Pussy and Buying Pussy Will Never Fix. There are a lot of Lonely People in this Hobby (Which I steer far away from) but, not Everyone is in this Hobby because they are Lonely. This Hobby Is Huge. Personally, I hold my tongue 99.8% of the time due to people being so sensitive. However, while I do disagree with many things; I will (finally) only post on this tid bit as My Opinion.

Hell, anyone that feels so strongly about the shit being such a "Necessity" shouldn't even be charging anyone for it. Being that "It's a Necessity n All". These men are Starving and Damaged after all...

My Bad OP: Back On Topic, Gotta Go Meet My Trainer...

Have a great day and Happy Hobbying!
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This was a very illuminating post, Alyssa.

..."(for real) without having to pay for them (not real)."

Interestingly, we are all not the same on this one. I would bet most providers "probably" feel similarly about your post. Respectfully, I feel differently about these topics. I genuinely feel that when I spend time with a person, it's real in the sense that I care about them, care about meeting their needs (not just physical), care about the long-lasting impression I leave them with -- (I'm aiming for "Wow! Not all escorts are the same." And I care about will they remember me tomorrow, next week, next month, next year... for reasons beyond the physical.

And I ask questions that enable me to feel like we are starting a new friendship. (Because, of course, caring to know about you and friendship go hand in hand.) I find that just knowing little things like where you are from, what kind of work you do -- that one can really provoke my interest for many reasons, i.e, careers that are people-focused; I admire businessmen for taking risks and not being guaranteed success; anyone who is an important hub of society's functioning, really.) Further, since I live in Jonesboro, am from Northeast Arkansas, and have memories of Jonesboro as a kid, I feel a certain bond with people who also live here.

And the quote 'Hell, anyone that feels so strongly about the shit being such a "Necessity" shouldn't even be charging anyone for it. Being that "It's a Necessity n All". These men are Starving and Damaged after all...'

I'd like to respectfully share my insights on this:
I do feel intimacy, sex, and companionship are necessities for life... a good life, one that's happy and fulfilling. And you can take a very depressed person, for instance, they meet a new friend, their whole outlook changes. On a personal note, I learned that intimacy, sex, and companionship are necessities for life by going without them for a long time. Now that I have these things, I am a whole new person; I am the happiest I've ever been, as an adult, at least!

So why do I offer my time, my companionship to others in exchange for value:
My time is valuable. If I were a therapist or a doctor or a nurse, I'd be homeless if a thing of value were not traded for my time and what I provided to others.

The quote '...Paying an "Escort" to Pretend to be all of those needs that You require.'

Is it "pretending" when we kiss and we both enjoy it, both get something out of it? I have needs, and frankly, I get a lot of them met by my encounters. Is it "pretending" when I love being touched, feel as though it's healing for me, makes me feel loved and appreciated? (Yes, every encounter is different. Have there been times I was uncomfortable and not having pleasant thoughts? Absolutely. The vast majority of my experiences have been very pleasant, and I think it's because I'm selective about who I see and take time to gauge personality and character.)

Companionship is not about, as you say, "selling pussy." (There are certainly different levels of escorting.) Companionship on a higher level is about being in touch with the fact we are both human, we both have needs, physical and non-physical; let's figure out what we have in common, what we both enjoy (in the bedroom and out of the bedroom), what can we do for each other, and it goes beyond physical satisfaction: non-sexual touch, cuddling, talking, spending time doing fun things, like going to dinner, spending a holiday together...
And this is exactly why I do not look at you as a "client" or anything transactional. You are my friend. You are a real human with something to give... well beyond money.

Where I find difficulty as a companion is when someone wrongs me or is rude. It's difficult to push those feelings aside and remember that everyone is not like that. That person was either having a bad day or has a bad attitude every day

So, yeah, intimacy, sex, and companionship are the necessities in my life and I love them very much!
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Interesting exchange. Alyssa and Kindall Nicole both make excellent points. I agree intimacy and sex aren't necessities. And don't believe an escort who, either through good acting or channeling her inner "Commander Troi", is necessarily offering higher level service. (Aside: Commander Troi was the busty, attractive empath and ship's counselor on Star Trek: The Next Generation.) It's like arguing whether GFE or PSE is better. Different strokes for different folks.

That said, the psychologists say that men who have a decent sex life with affection involved are happier. Yeah, Alyssa's right, ideally you'd like to see people make that happen by pursuing happy, committed relationships. But then you've got men out there who aren't in that position for various reasons. Maybe it's a lack of social skills, or physical appearance, or the wife has lost interest in sex, or he's just between relationships. If Kindall can provide a feeling of intimacy to clients like these, then she's doing a great service IMHO.

Regardless, men without available sexual partners are more inclined to violence and other anti-social behavior. And more likely to suffer from ailments like cardiovascular disease and prostate cancer. So hats off to providers in general. The world is a better place because of you.
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