~BARE BACK PLEDGE~ Revised Version

[Guest072619]

Haha! What up, T? you need to make one of those pledges for the hobbyists to sign, not the hoes.... we give a discount to any one that signs it lol
Print out membership cards n show em at the door for discounts and prizes

[twotimetony]

I love Eryn... She's awesome... I would love for someone to fuck with her... she will beat your ass...lol!

[Toyz]

Originally Posted by Eryn

Haha! What up, T? you need to make one of those pledges for the hobbyists to sign, not the hoes.... we give a discount to any one that signs it lol
Print out membership cards n show em at the door for discounts and prizes

Hmmm...I might actually do that. Will be interesting at least, huh?

[Leah Layada]

It's a cute idea and E probably meant it mostly in jest but just incase: why should providers have to give discounts to clients for doing what we already require of them in the first place? Do you really think a guy that likes to go raw is gonna be swayed by a discount to wear a condom? And say he does get swayed to wear a condom just for the sake of the discount what's to stop every BBFSer with half a brain from just creating two hobby identities so one can be the clean discount condom alias and the other the BBFS alias.

All trying to bribe people into wearing condoms would do is effectively lower the rates of providers that want to stay semi-healthy. I don't see the benefit.

Originally Posted by Toyz

Hmmm...I might actually do that. Will be interesting at least, huh?

[Toyz]

Originally Posted by Leah Layada

It's a cute idea and E probably meant it mostly in jest but just incase: why should providers have to give discounts to clients for doing what we already require of them in the first place? Do you really think a guy that likes to go raw is gonna be swayed by a discount to wear a condom? And say he does get swayed to wear a condom just for the sake of the discount what's to stop every BBFSer with half a brain from just creating two hobby identities so one can be the clean discount condom alias and the other the BBFS alias.

All trying to bribe people into wearing condoms would do is effectively lower the rates of providers that want to stay semi-healthy. I don't see the benefit.

But alas...since you are an inactive hoogar, with no showcase or reviews...your opinion on the issue is moot & a non-factor. At present, you have the legitimacy of Twiggy. Get some reviews, post some pictures, then you'll be taken seriously.

Why would providers lower rates? Because at present they are pricing themselves out of the market, hence the number who HAVE lowered their rates in the SNATCH thread which grows daily.



And E was serious as her tight ass, I assure you.

[Leah Layada]

I'm not "inactive" at all. I have a current review on The Erotic Review under this name from like a month ago and I'm a verified provider here, on TER, and on P411, SouthernGFE and Slixa. I have photos up on my website, and my p411 among other places. Just because I don't feel the need for an ECCIE showcase doesn't make me any less of a verified provider.

I only do this part time right now and the majority of my clients value their privacy to the extent they prefer not to review, thus you aren't going to see a long string of reviews for me.

My rate is $250 an hour and it drops down to $200 an hour if you get 2 hrs. That is hardly pricing oneself out of the market.

[Toyz]

If you are going to rail away ballistic on every topic in eccie claiming you are a verified provider, then legitimize it by.posting an eccie profile with links to previous reviews.

Otherwise you open yourself up to DUE scrutiny...

If the excessive rate applies to you, then wear it...since no one can see monger reviews of you then stating your rates are not overcharging is merely your opinion.

I was gonna offer $37.50 for a BB quicky, any interest?

[Guest010218]

Leah, suggest you attend some socials and meet people face to face. Many guys will NOT see a provider with whom they have not met personally. Your pictures are nice, but they don't really tell me what I would need to know if I was to request a session.

May I Suggest: http://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=1751422

The rates on your website make sense and are attractive to most; however, many hobbyists just don't know enough about you since there are no reviews from experienced hobbyists on which to judge. Might offer a review special limited to hobbyists with 118 or more posted Reviews...

Just saying... Not a hater.

[Leah Layada]

Unfortunately my time for hobbying is limited and I have monetary goals that preclude hanging out with hobbyists and acting as my "work persona" for free. I prefer to hang out with my friends where I can 100% be myself and never have to worry about if what I am saying or not saying is going to affect my ability to pay rent.

Please don't take this the wrong way but if those gentlemen find it necessary to meet girls in person before hiring them I suggest visiting brothels and inspecting the line ups there rather than choosing online escorts. I'm an online escort.

If my verification as a provider on multiple sites is not enough along with the fact that I show freaking FACE photos on my p411 then I guess I'm just too much of a risk for some hobby guys and I respect that. I'm genuinely curious as to what other info you could need from me that isn't posted on my P411, made available in my review at The Erotic Review or on my website. I'm not opposed to adding info if I've left some specific things out. My slixa profile gives the best idea of my personality if that's a consideration.

I've seen Still Looking- I think he has about a million reviews here. Perhaps he can assure you that I'm not a serial killer etc.? I requested that he not review me on Eccie and he honored that but I imagine he'd vouch for me here.

118 reviews minimum...hmmm...now where might a gal find a guy like that? I actually have a $50 off the second visit special for reviews on The Erotic Review. You wouldn't happen to be a member there would you?

Originally Posted by BugleBoy

Leah, suggest you attend some socials and meet people face to face. Many guys will NOT see a provider with whom they have not met personally. Your pictures are nice, but they don't really tell me what I would need to know if I was to request a session.

May I Suggest: http://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=1751422

The rates on your website make sense and are attractive to most; however, many hobbyists just don't know enough about you since there are no reviews from experienced hobbyists on which to judge. Might offer a review special limited to hobbyists with 118 or more posted Reviews...

Just saying... Not a hater.

[Lioness]

Which is why your lunch invitation got declined.^

[Leah Layada]

Sure. That's your choice and I respect it.

[Leah Layada]

Becoming verified on eccie is a process...one can't simply claim it and have it be true. The very obvious fact that I have "verified provider" under my name means I have been personally vouched for by members of this eccie community. Also..."railing away ballistic?"...pot meet kettle. LOL

Originally Posted by Toyz

If you are going to rail away ballistic on every topic in eccie claiming you are a verified provider, then legitimize it by.posting an eccie profile with links to previous reviews.

Otherwise you open yourself up to DUE scrutiny...

If the excessive rate applies to you, then wear it...since no one can see monger reviews of you then stating your rates are not overcharging is merely your opinion.

I was gonna offer $37.50 for a BB quicky, any interest?

[The Infamous One]

Lunch invitation? What did I miss?

[Lioness]

Leah doubts my validity as a provider and seemed to feel that me accepting her invitation to buy me lunch would be relevant to establishing my validity as a provider to her. I have since explained that her opinion regarding my validity isn't relevant, and that like her, I do not often make time for those in the hobby beyond paid appointments excepting those whom I count as friends, and those individuals are far and few between. My reasons include some of the very same which Leah has listed. As stated earlier, we need no other provider's approval to be a provider. She expressed a desire to meet me. My time is available, at $100 an hour. *Smiles Sweetly*

[russellevans]

Originally Posted by Lioness

Leah doubts my validity as a provider and seemed to feel that me accepting her invitation to buy me lunch would be relevant to establishing my validity as a provider to her. I have since explained that her opinion regarding my validity isn't relevant, and that like her, I do not often make time for those in the hobby beyond paid appointments excepting those whom I count as friends, and those individuals are far and few between. My reasons include some of the very same which Leah has listed. As stated earlier, we need no other provider's approval to be a provider. She expressed a desire to meet me. My time is available, at $100 an hour. *Smiles Sweetly*

You sounds like such a great person, I can see why she invited you to lunch.