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Old Yesterday, 12:02 PM   #1
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Default And there He goes gain . . .

At times, I feel as though I am watching a parody sketcvh from Monty Pithon.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/video/anim...it/vi-BB1oaW7Y
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Old Yesterday, 12:12 PM   #2
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It's "Python" btw.

"Now go away, or I shall taunt you a second time."
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Old Yesterday, 01:56 PM   #3
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At times, I feel as though I am watching a parody sketcvh from Monty Pithon.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/video/anim...it/vi-BB1oaW7Y
And we’re going to be stuck with him after he wins the election because the republicans failed to impeach Trump after January 6th. The democrats would likely have had a primary race that would have excluded Biden if the opposition hadn’t been Von Schitzenpants. If Kamala Harris becomes president It’s the fault of the republicans.
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Starting to feel like tx-guy is the only one here who really gets it.
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Just vote for Trump and end this charade.

These other Countries must be thinking…….”Americans voted for this”?
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Just vote for Trump and end this charade.

These other Countries must be thinking…….”Americans voted for this”?
Riiight...

Because other countries respect Trump SO much. Especially from the NATO Bloc.

I work with people from all over the world. They all think we are fucking crazy for allowing him to get into the White House in the first place. And they are in stunned disbelief that we might do this yet again.
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Starting to feel like tx-guy is the only one here who really gets it.
Plenty of us Texas guys really get it and are voting for Trump. Because Biden wanders off quite frequently - this time saved by Italian PM Giorgia Meloni:

http://nypost.com/2024/06/13/us-news...site%20buttons

“Hours earlier, Biden had a strange introduction to Meloni, appearing to bury his face in her hair as the two embraced upon the president’s arrival at the summit venue in the city of Fasano.

Before departing the stage where Meloni had greeted him, Biden also raised his right hand in an awkward salute before walking away.”


C’mon man! You can’t bury your face in the Italian PM’s hair.
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Riiight...

Because other countries respect Trump SO much. Especially from the NATO Bloc.

I work with people from all over the world. They all think we are fucking crazy for allowing him to get into the White House in the first place. And they are in stunned disbelief that we might do this yet again.
Sure they respected us from the NATO block since we were footing the majority of the bill.

Just like now. Europeans could give a shit less about Ukraine. They like that Russian oil and Natural Gas.
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Just sayin...
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At times, I feel as though I am watching a parody sketcvh from Monty Pithon.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/video/anim...it/vi-BB1oaW7Y
... Blimey! More laughs than a Rockhampton Riot!

Thanks for posting that, mate...

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The democrats would likely have had a primary race that would have excluded Biden if the opposition hadn’t been Von Schitzenpants. If Kamala Harris becomes president it’s the fault of the republicans.
Hey txdot-guy - that's a pretty convoluted way to blame Republicans for your own party's stupidity and utter obtuseness!

Here's another way to look at it:


Trump’s Conviction and Biden’s Worst Decision

If he really were FDR, it might justify what he’s putting the country through for a second term.


Holman W. Jenkins, Jr.
May 31, 2024 3:59 pm ET


Thursday’s conviction was more than a gift to the Biden campaign. It was a self-gift.

Joe Biden told Michigan voters in 2020, “Look, I view myself as a bridge, not as anything else.” It quickly turned out, on being elected, that he saw his first term as a bridge to a second.

For a laugh, read the New York Times’s supposedly searching account of the Justice Department’s decision to pursue Mr. Trump for Jan. 6 crimes. After failing to find the expected financial or other ties between the Trump circle and Jan. 6 rioters, “the department’s leadership had no alternative but to steer the investigation into choppy, uncharted waters: They shifted focus to election fraud.”

Notice the words “had no alternative.” Actually the department had an alternative, which any agency has when an investigation doesn’t pan out: End the investigation.

But as the Times fails to point out, the department was soon laboring under an implicit direct order, delivered on the front page of the Times itself, via a contrived leak from Mr. Biden disparaging his attorney general for failing to develop a case against Mr. Trump.

Also getting the message was Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg, who had just been slurred in the liberal media for dropping his own office’s flimsy pursuit of Mr. Trump, which he promptly thereupon revived. It eventually delivered Thursday’s highly dubious outcome.

Next up are Hunter Biden’s trials on gun and tax charges, which may have millions of voters thinking of the political system: They’re all bums, now which one is my bum?

Let us stop and remind ourselves that Joe Biden’s candidacy is viable only because his opponent is Mr. Trump.

Mr. Biden deliberately courted a Trump restoration to get a second term. He and allies deliberately court the mayhem that may result no matter who wins.

Mr. Biden delivers us to this moment, recall, to extend a presidency that he hardly earned and was largely accidental.

He was rescued from his third and failing run for the White House by a convocation of middle-aged Democratic officeholders who sought to thwart Bernie Sanders, in a year when they calculated a ham sandwich should be able to prevail against a reviled incumbent Mr. Trump.

Mr. Biden campaigned from his basement when he campaigned at all. His turnout and Mr. Trump’s represented the two greatest turnouts in presidential history, and nobody believes this was even slightly Mr. Biden’s doing. If anyone voted for Mr. Biden because he’s Mr. Biden, that person lives in Delaware and is a relative.

We’re deep in counterfactual territory now, but a passel of younger Democrats would have stood up and contested among themselves for the future of their party if Mr. Biden had kept his implied promise of a one-term presidency.

Republicans might well have gotten a message that history’s page is turning and the Trump moment had passed.

Democratic underlings like Mr. Bragg, Georgia’s Fani Willis and the Justice Department’s Jack Smith wouldn’t have received an unmistakable signal, as they did from Mr. Biden, or even known where to look for it, urging them to pile on charges against Mr. Trump.

Ron DeSantis seems in little doubt about what derailed his heir apparency. The Bragg indictments closed the window for the non-Trumps.

Mr. Biden may be on his last legs cognitively but everything I’m saying he knows too. He knows how his decision to run looks in light of polls showing even Democrats don’t believe he’s up to the job.

He knows that any hope of his re-election being a true validation is blown up in advance by the campaign he’s being forced to run. His very strategy shrieks that Mr. Biden knows he’s unelectable if the race isn’t another Trump referendum, aided by 34 convictions and three more pending criminal trials.

The damning age issue doesn’t get fleshed out enough. Mr. Biden isn’t FDR, whom his party could just barely justify nominating, given his D-Day success and wartime prestige, while hiding from voters that he probably wouldn’t last out his term. How idiotic—how disingenuous, given everything Democrats say is at stake in the election—to require voters to weigh, practically before any other consideration, whether the candidate might be alive and lucid on Inauguration Day.

In my book, the verdict already is final: One of the worst decisions by any president in history is Joe Biden’s decision to seek a second term. This decision is so terrible it may not be redeemable in the eyes of history even if his roll of the dice succeeds and he blocks Trump’s return to the presidency rather than being the vehicle for Mr. Trump’s restoration.

In spirit, his decision is hardly different from raiding mom’s purse for drug money. Now add to the price his unleashing of the dogs of lawfare into our politics. The consequences may be repulsively incalculable for decades to come.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-...ision-2aa0aca9
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Hey txdot-guy - that's a pretty convoluted way to blame Republicans for your own party's stupidity and utter obtuseness!

Here's another way to look at it.
How Prescient was this article back in 2021.

How Mitch McConnell blew his ‘LBJ moment’ and handed the GOP back to Trump

In 1964, President Lyndon B. Johnson faced a choice between doing what was best for America and what was best for his Democratic Party. He put the country first by signing the Civil Rights Act of 1964, the benchmark litigation that transformed America by outlawing public segregation, even though LBJ knew that Democrats would pay a steep price. After the law’s passage, an aide noticed that LBJ was downcast and asked what was wrong. “We’ve lost the South,” said this astute politician, and he was right. Democrats still haven’t gotten most of it back.

For a brief period, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) was poised to emulate LBJ and put America ahead of his party. Just before the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol, McConnell warned that the refusal of senators to accept Biden’s election would send American democracy into “a death spiral.” After the attack, McConnell squarely blamed Trump. “The mob was fed lies,” he said in the Senate on Jan. 19. “They were provoked by the president and other powerful people.”

Reportedly, McConnell was “furious” at Trump over the insurrection; told associates that Trump’s behavior was an impeachable offense; and welcomed the Democrats’ impeachment drive because it would help the Republican Party divorce itself from Trump. McConnell’s wife, Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao, resigned from Trump’s Cabinet. Insiders confidently predicted that McConnell would wring enough votes from Senate Republicans to convict Trump and bar him from ever again holding federal office.

Alas, what might have come to be called the Great Republican Moral Reckoning never happened. Just one week after his “the mob was fed lies” speech, McConnell, along with most Republican senators, voted to dismiss the impeachment article against Trump on the ground that a former president cannot be impeached. According to one account, McConnell counted the votes in his Senate caucus to convict Trump, came up short and hastily retreated. How hard he tried to persuade Senate Republicans to vote to convict Trump is not clear, but apparently Republican senators began losing their nerve, just as they always have with Trump, and then McConnell lost his.

The Republican claim that the Constitution forbids trying a former president is a flawed pretext for avoiding a long overdue moral showdown with Donald Trump. In fact, a Congressional Research Service (CRS) report suggested that, while the issue is not free from doubt, the Senate has a plausible constitutional basis for trying a former president. The CRS noted that in 1876 the Senate held an impeachment trial of William Belknap, President Ulysses S. Grant’s secretary of war, even though he was no longer in office. (Belknap was acquitted.)

LBJ, a genius at arm twisting, persuading and cajoling legislators, might have rounded up the votes of Republican senators needed, along with the votes of 50 Democratic senators, to convict Trump. But the political will has to be there, and it wasn’t for Mitch McConnell, who decided that it was better to keep his party together than to defend American democracy.

History could well judge this moment as a turning point for the Republican Party and America because it may have been the best and perhaps last chance for Republicans to rid themselves of Donald Trump, who could campaign for president in 2024, as suggested by historian Timothy Snyder, on the dangerously false claim that he was “stabbed in the back” by Democrats. Indeed, McConnell, before he backed down, cogently made the case that Trumpism is a mortal threat to democracy in America —and that was before Trump underscored McConnell’s point by provoking an insurrectionary attack on the Capitol.

But if you pick a fight with Donald Trump and then back down, he will own you. Even though he is out of office, Trump owns Mitch McConnell and the Republican Party.

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-ho...back-to-trump/
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Lemme see if I understand your argument, txdot-guy...

Because Mitch McConnell didn't pressure his Senate GOP colleagues hard enough to cross party lines and impeach/convict Trump back in 2021, it justifies the Democrats clinging to a weak, senile, incompetent 81-year-old zombie for re-election in 2024?

Is that your argument?
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Lemme see if I understand your argument, txdot-guy...

Because Mitch McConnell didn't pressure his Senate GOP colleagues hard enough to cross party lines and impeach/convict Trump back in 2021, it justifies the Democrats clinging to a weak, senile, incompetent 81-year-old zombie for re-election in 2024?

Is that your argument?

Not justifies. Explains. Sir.
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"Stuck"with Biden becsude the Republicns . . . .whatever.

So, someone on the Democrat side agrees that President Biden is someone they/we should not want to be president?

Easily fixed in more than one way: There is the coming election of course, then there is their coming convention, and finally, thee is the Constitution's escape hatch in the 25th Amendment.
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